Recently my 99 Burb with 55,000 miles on it for some reason drained the battery. No lights are on and nothing is running. Overnight the battery is drained to the point that it barely starts. Also, now there is an error code P1345. Could these be related?
Mike D.
P1345 is crankshaft position-camshaft position correlation.
Check the distributor and rotor first. Loose distributor, loose rotor, broken wire
I have had 2 GM products in that year range that had an underhood light controlled by a gravity switch. Had the exact same problem (Without the error code) of battery draining over night. Using my trusty ammeter, traced the drain to the underhood light. I disconnected the wires right at the light (GM thoughtfully put a connector there), and problem was solved. When I needed the light (Rarely, as it put out just enough light to give you eye strain), I simply plugged it back in. I usually pulled out my trusty MagLite Flashlight, and blinded the neighborhood.
Me thinks the error code is unrelated.
John
On Jan 3, 6:35=EF=BF=BDpm, Mike Dobony wrote= :
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Due the following in the order listed.........
Answer this Question.......Does the truck crank ok during the day after driving it, shutting it down, and restarting it after an hour or so??
Disregard all of the below if the answer to the above question is no.
Check the electrolite level in the battery, fill it if necessary using acid from the parts store.
Replace the battery cable ends, cut the OE wires back enough to have clean wire for the new ends, clean the battery terminals WELL before reattaching the battery cables.
Recharge the battery by either driving the vehicle for at least 30 minutes or.......use a battery charger on trickle charge.
Do a repost if the symptom is still there.......AND......start the following diagnostic steps.
Recharge the battery using your preferred technique.
Unhook the negative battery cable at night after parking the vehicle for the last time.
Reattach the cable in the morning and see if the vehicle starts OK or if the symptom is still there.
Do a repost with the results for further, if any, diagnostic steps needed to enact an appropriate repair.
ps........you could jest say fk it and carry it to a shop......where all this should be done for no more than around $$29-$39 depending on where you live.
~:~ MarshMonster ~takes a toke........time cost money.........how much you wanna spend? ~:~ ~:
========== ========== Due the following in the order listed.........
Answer this Question.......Does the truck crank ok during the day after driving it, shutting it down, and restarting it after an hour or so??
Disregard all of the below if the answer to the above question is no.
Check the electrolite level in the battery, fill it if necessary using acid from the parts store.
Replace the battery cable ends, cut the OE wires back enough to have clean wire for the new ends, clean the battery terminals WELL before reattaching the battery cables.
Recharge the battery by either driving the vehicle for at least 30 minutes or.......use a battery charger on trickle charge.
Do a repost if the symptom is still there.......AND......start the following diagnostic steps.
Recharge the battery using your preferred technique.
Unhook the negative battery cable at night after parking the vehicle for the last time.
Reattach the cable in the morning and see if the vehicle starts OK or if the symptom is still there.
Do a repost with the results for further, if any, diagnostic steps needed to enact an appropriate repair.
ps........you could jest say fk it and carry it to a shop......where all this should be done for no more than around $$29-$39 depending on where you live.
But he should hang onto his a$$ if he takes it to a dealer. One of our company trucks (99 Gmc Sierra 2500) shucked the fuel pump in the next town West and the pump and filter installed came to a whopping $1046.
Dave
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oooooooooooooooooch ouch oye ohmy
~:~ marsh ~takes a toke.......thinks it mighta been a diesel~ ~:~
And destroy the battery? NO THANK YOU! Distilled water to top off ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Done years ago. This would do NOTHING to discharge the battery. Hard start due to poor connection, but not to discharge the battery.
~takes a toke.......thinks it mighta been a diesel~ ~:~
Nope.....5.7 gasser
rote:
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So.........YOU DON'T CHECK THE FK'N ELECTROLITE LEVEL?? YOU JUST ADD WATER?????
oh.......and if you yell.........ima gonna YELL LOUDER!!!!!
anywhoooooooooo..........
GL with yer symptom Mr.Tech.....................do it yer way.
:)
~:~ MARSHMONSTER ~takes a toke........lay's a months pay on the table........... anyone wanna bet MrTech ain't never used distilled water to top off a battery before......much less had his hands on a tester?~ ~:~
No, not after the initial fill and charge.
Electrolyte is for filling dry charged batteries.
Of course you check the level first you total moron! You NEVER add acid to a used battery to top it off as this will quickly destroy the battery. When a cell needs topping off you ONLY use distilled water to top it off.
The remainder of your advice was good, except it totally ignored the point of the question, are the two problems possibly related. Now you totally ruined it by your insanity.
Go ahead and yell. It still doesn't make your advice any less destructive. I don't feel like destroying a good battery.
I checked that already and the light does indeed go out with the hood closed.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I understand that..........but............ how does he KNOW what's going on.....if he doesn't ck it. Yes.......I.....AM aware that it goes against all norm, and what's suggested by the manufacturers.......to add new electrolite to a battery.
HOWEVER..........it's also against all norm, and what's suggested by the manufacturers.......to drop one on the ground a couple times too.
:)
but...........I do BOTH.......
:)
Now......is this a good idea?? I don't fk'n know. I know what I've been told, I know what I've read, I know what I've had experience with......and......I know that I NEVER take anyones word as gospel on anything. (jest duh way i am )
Is it working on the TRUCKS that I'm working on? yes......no!
Does it work on some of them? Yer damd rite it does.
Does it not work on some of them? Yer damd rite it don't.
Will I keep doing it? Yer damd rite I will.
Why? Go price a set of batteries for a diesel......then price a bottle of electrolite from NAPA.
anywhoooooooooooo....... I understand that my advice is against the norm.....but.....if he doesn't check the charge state, the electrolite, and basically check the damd thing out THE RITE WAY..........then he's GUESSING at the overall condition of the battery. So if he's gonna GUESS....mix up the electrolite and top the freek'n battery off......cuz it's my GUESS that the damd thing is'nt very low anywhoooo.....he's not going to use a tester for the electrolite.....and A COUPLE OF SHOT GLASS'S OF MIXED ELECTROLITE AIN'T GONNA KILL HIS FREEK'N BATTERY !!!
unless......he's omitted the fact that the dang thing is taking a tea pitcher to fill it up......then.........fk it.
:)
again......anywhooooooo........ at least you didn't call me a dipshit.....this time.
:)
~:~ marsh ~takes a toke.......pulls the battery outta the truck.....drops it on the ground.........there.....that'll shake'm up~ ~:~
On Jan 7, 9:01=EF=BF=BDam, Mike Dobony wrote= :
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Let me clarify......for you Mr.Tech........
I was refering to the charge condition of the electrolit mixture as in a chemical mixture....not pop'n the fk'n tops off........... poke'n yer fanger in the hole to see how low the fluid level was.
(notice...how i diddddnt even yell :)
and........ YOU'RE FREEK'N WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I, me, personally, myself, ...........add electrolite to used batteries.
Now......what the rest of the free world is up to out there...God only knows......or....maybe God and you.
:)
anywhoooooooooooo..........
as stated before.......GL with yer project Mr.Tech. hope it all works out well fer yee.
~:~ MARSHMONSTER ~takes a sip of his mushroom tea...........enters a realm where most are scared to go~ ~:~
What is "it?" The fluid level or the specific gravity of the fluid?
Because it usually isn't needed.
Ya lost me there Grasshopper; what are we dropping on the ground and why are we dropping whatever it is we're dropping on the ground on the ground?
Whatever -that- is...
Yes, if it's sod. (cuz that's where it belongs)
2 quality 1000 CCA batteries would run about $160.00 and since the subjcet vehicle is 9 years old, he's had plenty of time to save up for them.Measure specific gravity, hydrometer or refractometer, take your choice...
A simple visual check.
Load test, transconductance test, charge, test again, lather, rinse, repeat...
It's how you worded it.
Actually, it very well might.
Blame whoever does his oil changes. They should be checking things like this.
New years resolution.
This is serving the customers needs?
Don't confuse "scared" with grew out of...
=========== =========== I understand that..........but............ how does he KNOW what's going on.....if he doesn't ck it. Yes.......I.....AM aware that it goes against all norm, and what's suggested by the manufacturers.......to add new electrolite to a battery.
HOWEVER..........it's also against all norm, and what's suggested by the manufacturers.......to drop one on the ground a couple times too.
:)
but...........I do BOTH.......
:)
Now......is this a good idea?? I don't fk'n know. I know what I've been told, I know what I've read, I know what I've had experience with......and......I know that I NEVER take anyones word as gospel on anything. (jest duh way i am )
Is it working on the TRUCKS that I'm working on? yes......no!
Does it work on some of them? Yer damd rite it does.
Does it not work on some of them? Yer damd rite it don't.
Will I keep doing it? Yer damd rite I will.
Why? Go price a set of batteries for a diesel......then price a bottle of electrolite from NAPA.
anywhoooooooooooo....... I understand that my advice is against the norm.....but.....if he doesn't check the charge state, the electrolite, and basically check the damd thing out THE RITE WAY..........then he's GUESSING at the overall condition of the battery. So if he's gonna GUESS....mix up the electrolite and top the freek'n battery off......cuz it's my GUESS that the damd thing is'nt very low anywhoooo.....he's not going to use a tester for the electrolite.....and A COUPLE OF SHOT GLASS'S OF MIXED ELECTROLITE AIN'T GONNA KILL HIS FREEK'N BATTERY !!!
unless......he's omitted the fact that the dang thing is taking a tea pitcher to fill it up......then.........fk it.
:)
again......anywhooooooo........ at least you didn't call me a dipshit.....this time.
:)
~:~ marsh ~takes a toke.......pulls the battery outta the truck.....drops it on the ground.........there.....that'll shake'm up~ ~:~
YOU da MAN Marsh... That's what I like about you, straight forward, honest, no BS advise based on your years of experience. You put it out there - take it or leave it. Happy New Year to ya my friend.
Dzlman (You ain't no dipshit!)
Hey Marshy:
I was invited to a technical seminar/Bullshit meeting at Yusa/Exide. They actually said if you have a battery that is gelling up in the winter, or not holding a good charge. To remove the old fluid. Then replace with fresh electrolyte.
I'm sure some of the self righteous will argue, but this was right from Exide. I was invited because I sold over 200 batteries in a year.
RK
PS Some of the self righteous are appropriately kill filed.
============ ============ Let me clarify......for you Mr.Tech........
I was refering to the charge condition of the electrolit mixture as in a chemical mixture....not pop'n the fk'n tops off........... poke'n yer fanger in the hole to see how low the fluid level was.
(notice...how i diddddnt even yell :)
and........ YOU'RE FREEK'N WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I, me, personally, myself, ...........add electrolite to used batteries.
Now......what the rest of the free world is up to out there...God only knows......or....maybe God and you.
:)
anywhoooooooooooo..........
as stated before.......GL with yer project Mr.Tech. hope it all works out well fer yee.
~:~ MARSHMONSTER ~takes a sip of his mushroom tea...........enters a realm where most are scared to go~ ~:~
We used Exide batteries for a while when I worked at Wisconsin Gas Company, for any given battery shipment, at least 40% were DOA. They gave us that same spiel 18 years ago, because they knew at the time that their electrolyte was batched wrong. i.e., "defective."
FYI, it's 'Yuasa' not "Yusa"...
Marshy would be interested in replacing batteries because?? (he beats the crap out of 'em instead, I guess that wakes them up or something)
IOWs, head in the sand.
YOU da MAN Marsh... That's what I like about you, straight forward, honest, no BS advise based on your years of experience. =EF=BF=BDYou put it out the= re
- take it or leave it. =EF=BF=BDHappy New Year to ya my friend.
Dzlman (You ain't no dipshit!)
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Wow........gotta another one fooled.
~~ oo L O
tks DZ
~:~ marsh ~takes a toke......hopes Mitchell on Demand doesn't find out he's got illegal acess and is only 4 years old~ ~:~
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