AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricant

AMSOIL..The First in Synthetics...

Looking for the extra edge in racing, street performance, or just every day driving? Look to AMSOIL to help. Reduce engine temps, help protect your moving parts, increase gas mileage and horsepower just from changing your oil. Save money on oil changes by going 6 months between changes! All the information and facts can bee see at

AMSOIL is constantly looking for independant dealers like myself, email me for more information from the website.

Thanks!

Jeff Independant AMSOIL Dealer New York

SPAMMER!!!!!!!!!!

Send abuse complaints to snipped-for-privacy@frontiernet.net. Maybe we can get the moron's account closed.

Big Chris

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Amsoil's distribution setup is multi level marketing... spamming is part and parcel with that image.

-Bret

Also Sprach Jeff Reeg :

I don't buy from spammers and I don't buy oil that is not API approved.

I agree with the comment on spammers. But the funny thing about API is that at least some of the AMSOIL products are API certified. Check out

which is the website of the API's Engine OilLicensing and Certification System Directory of Licensees. Click on thelinks to view either the "Companies that are Engine Oil Licensees" or "BrandNames belonging to Engine Oil Licensees". Not a fan of AMSOIL and have never used it. I usually fill the crankcase with either Quaker State or Pennzoil, though I have been known to buy whatever is on sale. More important to change that API oil regularly and often.

Bob

1986 Blazer S-10, 4x4, 2.8L, Auto. 149,000 miles and counting. 1992 Dodge W250 4x4, Cummins, 5spd. 197,000 miles and counting. (Work truck, what can I say :-)

(Wife drives a 1992 Ford Ranger 4x2, 4.0L, Auto. 140,000 miles and I have to replace the fuel pump)

I let them know that their spamming lost a potential customer, maybe is enough do they will rethink their methods.

FWIW, They replied to me today and told me that spamming is a violation of their dealer policy. I simply sent a polite letter asking them to ask their dealers to not spam NG's.

Amsoil jerks have been spamming newsgroups for years. And people have complained to Amsoil, Inc., countless times all to no avail. As Bret said, spamming is part of the Amsoil standard operating procedure.

Amsoil could never compete if they were forced to use normal marketing tactics.

I was surprised that they actually replied to me and said that it was a voltion of their policy.

You shouldn't be surprised. It takes all of 10 seconds to fire off a canned response to a complaint. Don't hold your breath waiting for them to take action.

MLMs really don't care about losing "potential customers". People who complain about the marketing tactics are merely people who have been reached by "The Message" but are not buyers. For every 10 people turned off by their tactics, one may complain, and one may actually buy the stuff (why anybody would use an oil that's not API certified is beyond me). Once you buy, you're deluged with crap to get you to buy again. Or better yet -- become a dealer so you, too, may share in the great riches realized by distributing their Superior Product.

To read what the dealers spam across Usenet it like listening to castrated Heaven's Gate cult members praising Ti & Do and inviting you along for a ride on their comet. They really don't care what you think of them -- they only want you to validate their lifestyle. And to an MLM dealer, that means buying his product.

Guys it seems to me that AMSOIL is still out there in spite of these spammers. After seeing the comments I would think that a bunch of people on here are turned offa gainst AMSOIL

HC