Restoring a Rhino Liner to it's new look

This is one that you have to see to believe. I had my Rhino installed in 2001 and it is showing signs of oxidation and discoloration from rust and other debris I kept in the bed over the years. I had some diluted Renewz AC
condenser coil cleaner accidentally spill in the bed and hosed it off a few minutes later and noticed a nice shiny new looking area when it dried. So I said, "what the hell" and sprayed the whole bed with Renewz and you can literally see the oxidation and discoloration run off the liner. It would seem that the surface oxidation is the only thing affected by this chemical.
Like anything else, use at your own risk.
http://www.rectorseal.com/productdata/acprdcts/dsrenewz.htm
Rita
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I opened the link to Renews webpage and it appears from the data sheet that the active ingredient is Sodium Hydroxide (Lye, caustic soda), it can blind and or severely burn skin, it can produce volatile, combustible or explosive products of chemical reactions.
NIOSH Data card link; http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng0360.html
I'd be scared to recommend the use of such a hazardous product in the hands of the general public who may not have the training, safety clothing and waste recovery facilities that are required in industry.
What are the properties of the reaction products of Renews AC coil cleaner with the oxidized liner? Do you think it should be just washed off with a water hose onto the yard where kids, dogs and cats walk crawl and roll around?
Just try entering Sodium Hydroxide in a Google search to see how hazardous this stuff can be.
Spud

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Sure, I would agree with you and the MSDS if the Sodium Hydroxide were used in its purest and undiluted form, but you're comparing apple to oranges when the product is severely diluted.
Here is an MSDS for water, which, if used improperly can cause severe bodily injury or death.
http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/WA/water.html
Here is another for hydrochloric acid (concentrated), a naturally occurring and diluted chemical in the digestive tract of all mammals.
http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/HY/hydrochloric_acid.html
The main point being RTFL (Read The Fncking Label) and use accordingly or before assuming the worse.

I wouldn't be scared and I did recommend its use. Of course I mentioned using at your own risk and take no responsibility for its use or misuse.

Probably the same produced by reacting with the oxidation on a condenser coil.

That's up to the individual user to decide, not me. In its diluted form it's no more dangerous than car wax or antifreeze. If a person isn't capable of properly using car wax or antifreeze they surely shouldn't be using any off the shelf product.

No need, I'm very familiar with its uses in various household and industrial products, including drain cleaner.
Geez, there will always be one out there in the world that has to piss on someone's parade. I'm sorry for trying to be helpful.
Rita
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Sheesh, until a few yrs ago when everyone began worrying abt everything normal in life, lye was sold full-strength for pennies in cans to clean drains & other gn'l uses, and housewives made it from ashes for centuries. I find it funny that no one complains about pumping present-day gasoline, which typically has a number of carcinogens & off-spec aromatics, but worries about ordinary household chemicals.
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Spud, You better dispose of your household cleaners with ammonia. Look up the MSDS for ammonia hydroxide, just as bad as sodium hydroxide. By the way your drinking water contains chlorine, better not drink that either or better yet don't open the trap and let it escape.
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DO YOU sell this product or make money to advertise it ????

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Absolutely not, I have been in this group for many years and have no desire to advertise, just a desire to help the group. This was put out for the professional people in this group that work on or restore trucks for a living. Also, the people that work on these vehicles, especially body and paint specialists have enough common sense and experience to handle this product since it is far less toxic or dangerous than any of the painting supplies they currently use.
If you are looking to purchase this chemical I would inquire with your local HVAC contractor or HVAC supply chain. Good luck.
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Pay no attention hes probably anti gun too!

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this has got to be one of the most asinine posts ever. THIS STUFF IS DANGEROUS!!!!! even when you "dilute" it like the bottle says it will still take your skin off!!! it is meant to be used by professionals for cleaning condenser coils; not truck bed liners. so please; for your own safety; and the safety of others..... DON'T USE IT!!!

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WHY don't you STFU?
Do you think we're all children?
We wouldn't be cleaning condensers, nor would most of us be "Professional Automotive Techs" in this group, helping others, in this group.
So please, let us use our own discretion when someone posts a good idea?
Otherwise I'd have to charge my customers $199.00 to do it with the process Speedliner uses. So would you rather me charge that price, or maybe $65.00 to $85.00 with hazardous waste disposal fees?
Thank you for understanding now!
Refinish King

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I wouldn't get too concerned about an asshole that needs protection from his stupidity. It is people like that we have asinine laws on the books so that "we don't hurt ourselves".
Anyway, if you test this on a small inconspicuous area of a Line-X or Speedliner and it works please let me know. Thanks again.
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It should work:
They are all a urethane product, the only difference being that. Speedliner is catalyzed and sprayed cold, rather than warmed like Rhino or Line-x.
So that's the only difference between the physical products. Bur Speedliner has a much more demanding surface prep requirement than Rhino or Speed Liner.
Thanks for that idea though.
And to the idiots with malice in mind, No restorations for you!
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well then go ahead and use it....I hope it burns your goddamn eyes out of your skull.

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Thank you for your kind words. If you are ever in the neighborhood please stop by so that I can clean your Rhino and shove the nozzle up your ass to clean your nasty thoughts.
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Even though their brains are up their asses:
I doubt that their collective brains are big enough for us mere mortals to even steam clean.
It would require a dual specializing surgeon: gastroentorologist/Neurosurgeon to find their colorectal peanut brains with a proctoscope, then flush them with Colytely.
A preparation made to remove stool from the G.I. Tract.
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You people are really vicious SCUMBAGS!
Maybe you shouldn't wish something so harmful to others, bad karma comes back and bites you in the ass.
In your case, most likely two fat assed trailer park inhabitants, who have nothing better to do. Than wish evil things. On people who have reached a little better station in life than your beer swilling, puking. Then more beer swilling and physical abuse routine?
You must have drank this by mistake, because you keep it to clear out your trailer sewage lines, right?
So you know first hand what it can do to idiots, but we aren't all idiots.
So please, go to rehab, then get an education. Then you too can learn the safe handling of these chemicals as we pros do.
Thank you for trying to read this post, as I'm sure you're functionally illiterate also!
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heh heh.....mission accomplished! are we too stupid to spell GASTROINTESTINAL??? or just too fat and lazy??

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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:52:20 -0400, "Refinish King"

clean my coils outside. He just sprayed it on and let it sit for awhile, then rinsed it off onto the ground below. EGADS! I guess my old house must be a superfund site now. Westleys Bleche-Wite tire cleaner has caustic in it as well but it apparently doesn't hurt anything after being diluted in the driveway with the rinse off spray. Stop with all the alarmism. Prudent people can take care of themselves and idiots deserve a chance to remove themselves from the gene pool.
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