2005 Honda Accord EX 4cyl or Acura TSX?? Help please.

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Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2 aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the Acura TSX.
I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys) for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is a very good price for those TSX's.
My question to all who could help would be what are the major differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label it the "almost perfect" car.
But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles? Is there a big difference?
Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the better! Thanks!
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On April 18 2005, snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (Cowboy Joe) wrote:

TSX, hands down. I bought a 2003 Accord in August of 2004. 4 cyl., MT. Very reliable, etc., etc. but not much fun to drive. I use a couple of exits off local interstates as my benchmark (plus any backroad in NW Penna.), and my old VW Jetta blew the doors off this thing.
In December of 2004 my wife got a 2005 TSX, 4 cyl. MT, ouch, what a difference. It was 8-9K more than the Accord, so it sounds like you are getting a good price.
It's superior in every dimension, acceleration, 6 speed MT vs. 5, creature comforts, and of course the handling. It's a little smaller, but if Honda hasn't really changed anything about the design of the Accord I wouldn't recommend it unless you just want reliable. So far it's been great in that regard.
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:04:29 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net (Cowboy Joe) wrote:

I went with the Accord, mostly because it was $120/month cheaper to lease. The Accord is a wonderful car, but it is a tad large for me and I keep looking back at the TSX, with a few more horses, and sighing.
OTOH I would imagine the TSX has a somewhat firmer, harsher ride, and the Accord is already rather harsher on the freeway than one would hope. Maybe I should have test-driven a Camry.
J.
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If you're leaning towards the Accord, go for the Hybrid.
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I suggest you play with the navigation system before you decide that you don't want it.

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Advantages of each:
Honda Accord -larger -uses regular gas -less expensive
Acura TSX -a little more powerful engine -stability control -less frequent oil changes
Aside from the above, you have to test drive them both. They are different cars and drive differently.
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out of curiosity how frequent are the oil changes on the Acura?

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Change the oil every 3 months or 3000 mi on any car. Oil is cheap. Neal

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It may be but Honda is going 10k between changes....actually they are going 20k, alternating between the filter and oil change every 10 k....very weird.

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(Trying to avoid the undying "oil change frequency" thread) Go for it - to each their own. This has become a very controversial issue, with recommendations from reputable sources running the gamut of 3K to 15K miles. I follow the owner's manual for each vehicle, myself, figuring they know better than I do.
Mike
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Ah, but changing the oil is simply cheap insurance.
If the manual says 6000 miles, and you do it at 3000 miles, you're not harming the car.
What's more worrisome is when they specify an oil change interval based on the marketing department's desire to show a car that's cheaper to maintain, rather than an engineering recommendation.
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Actually, Hondas are the only make I know of where oil changes take their toll on the engine... or more specifically, the oil drain pan threads. The ones I've worked on seem to gradually consume the threads with each change, eventually requiring a new pan or oversized drain bolt.
Mike
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That's only true if you don't change the oil drain plug washer. My Acura has close to 200,000 kms and not a leak from drain plug.
or if you really really overtighten the bolt, which some places like Jiffy Lube might do because of liablity issues with having the bolt come off and seize the engine when all the oil runs out.
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http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/400/5-4.pdf
33 lb-ft.
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Thanks!
Mike
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:14:25 -0400, Steve Bigelow wrote:

Wow! That's pretty tight!
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As the proud owner of an 04 TSX (and former owner of an Accord), I would ask you a question before answering..
What is more important to you- precise handling (read as sports sedan), or a comfortable ride?
If you responded with precise Handling- Go for the TSX. It is a firmer ride than you will get with the Accord. Handling is much better also. Stronger engine, better equipment level. The TSX is also slightly smaller- not really noticable though. Built in Japan too- unlike the American built Accord. With just under 10,000 miles on my TSX, I still love getting into it and driving it like I stole it (of course, I only do this on sanctioned tracks <wink>)!!! The largest drawback to the TSX is the requirement for Super Unleaded gasoline.
I am not putting the Accord down, it is an extremely well built vehicle. I was cross shopping a V6 when I bought the TSX.
Keep this in mind as well, The TSX is actually the known as the Accord in Europe and Asia (the US Accord is known as the Legend) This is because the US and Canada are the only countries where you can purchase an Acura branded vehicle.
I fyou want to find out more about the TSX, please visit the following website.. you will find a lot of info by TSX owners about their cars..
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/index.php
Whatever vehicle you end up with.. Enjoy it!!

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A little better, maybe, due to lower profile tires and suspension tuning, but the Accord is pretty good too y'know, and they are still pretty much clones of each other.

My four-banger Accord has a J* VIN, which means made in Japan.
J.
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