design like in the old days (my '83 is indistinguishable from a '78-89
911 to the untrained eye, and from a 74-up for the really clueless).
It's also not very popular with Porsche enthusiasts. The model
before the 996, the 993, is selling for higher prices on the used
market than some of the newer ones.
It hasn't been around for 34 years. The original car was
drastically changed in 1989, completely replaced in 1994, and again in
1998. The next version will be the 997 and that will be an evolution
of the current model (the 996). The cosmetic changes will take it back
to the appearance of the 993, which was the most popular 911 design in
Apparently, Porsche is planing a particularly short shelf-life for the 997. The
998s are due by late-2006 or early-2007. With the 997, they've gone back to
quasi-993 styling to try and attrack some of the "purists" who were put off by
the 996's new look. But reports I've read not only say that the 998's will move
to an 8-cylinder (and maybe a V-configuration) but that Porsche may move the
engine forward more twoards the center of the car for a mid-rear layout. It'll
be interesting to see what happens and how people react. Personally, I'm a big
fan of both the 993 and 996, but I do believe that the 996 is a little less
sports car and a little more "GT" than the previous variants were. However,
with a modern-day 928 GT car in the works, I think Porsche will be able to move
back toward a harder edged sports car with the Carrera.
Except that while the new car will LOOK like the 993, it will be
water cooled, and I will never buy a water cooled Porsche.
Other people apparently agree since they are paying more for the
last year air cooled 911 variiant than for new water cooled 996s
in some cases.
You're right about that attitude among Porsche fans, but I think
we'll see it turn around in the next couple of years. The 996's
disfavor is resulting in some great deals on them, and people are
starting to take advantage of those. The prices will only go lower now
that a new model has been announced.
And honestly, 993 owners are going to help; because of the attitude
towards them people are asking ridiculous prices for cars that aren't
remotely good enough to warrant them. People will waver when faced
with a nice low-miles 996 and a crappy high-miles 993 going for the
same money, because the car is actually pretty good.
Yup... I agree... I have an 84 911 turbo - amazing car. But its a lot of
work to drive. I decided to add something a little newer to my
collection so I started looking at 993 C4s cars. They are great... But
decided if I am going to be spending in the mid to high 40's then I
might as well look at a 996. I took a C2 and C4 for a spin. I was blown
away. The 993C4S was fun. The 2000 996 C4 was just amazing. I will be
picking mine up on Thursday of this week.. cant wait. The 84 911 still
has a place in my heart. It is an amazingly fun car as well.... But a
very different beast.
It's been my pleasant surprise to discover I like every Porsche
I've driven, and I think any true driving enthusiast would as well. I
was sort of expecting to like the 914, but I was genuinely surprised
just how much I like my 944, and I *really* wasn't expecting to like
the 928 (still haven't found one, though -sigh-). Most journos started
out with the same distrust of the 996 and seem to have come around on
Why? I can understand criticizing the 996 for being more of a GT and less "hard
edged" than previous variants, but the liquid cooled engine is fantastic. In
more ways that not, Porsche's have gotten nothing but better over the years. No
they're not quite the same as they once were but change can be good, and it has
been for the 911. Hell, the 427 Corvette is an awesome machine, probably the
best of the muscle-era Corvettes. But the C6 is going to be a much *better* car
as a daily driver and general performance machine. It may not be exactly what
"purists" expect of the Corvette (a lot of them dislike the C6's exposed
headlamps) but it doesn't change the facts.
I owned a 77 911S, 81 911, and an 82 911. I just think the air cooled
engine has more "magic" and is truer to what I love in a 911.
If I'm going to drive a water cooled engine, I'll just drive my Viper.
99 S420 (this could become an Audi)
96 Dodge Viper RT/10
My cousin has one, and he loves it. Great cars.
If I was going to buy another car in the Porsche, NSX, profile, (and if I
couldn't afford the Porsche 911 Turbo, or GT3, which I can't) it would
be the new Lotus Elise.
The Viper isn't an acquired taste. You get in one, and either you love it,
or you don't. Pretty straight forward.
In which DIN or SAE unit is "magic" measured? Is it quicker? More
torque, more power? More reliable?
C'mon, guys - what's *really* better about the air-cooled engines vs.
the wasserboxers, apart from sheer nostalgia?
Hmmm.. what was better about the old air cooled ones... Well... They
sounded better. And there was one less system to worry about getting
serviced.... The older cars were lighter, which is a bit of a positive
aspect too. I love the classic look of the older body style...
What else? I am sure we can come up with a ton of things that are better
about the Air cooled cars.
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