Where did I call you a bad driver, Mike? You are reading much more
into all of this than there really is. You obviously have a thin skin
(hence the temper?).
I say again: There are very bad drivers out there hanging in the left
lane on two/three/four lane highways. It is a problem. *Most* states
have a "keep right except to pass" law and post it on their roads.
Now, if NY doesn't, that's probably why many of the NY drivers that I
see in my travels are very poor drivers who think that the left lane
is *their* lane, and to hell with everyone else. I see it on my twice
yearly trips to Ontario to fly fish. I see in on my twice yearly
trips across the state on I84, and look forward to crossing the
Delaware into PA. If you drive without care in the left lane, then
you are a bad driver, period!
Me: There's nothing in the NY law that says you can't park your ass in
the left lane of a divided highway and do 55 mph till the cows come home.
You: And I suspect you would feel right at home doing just that. No
common sense, lad?
Oh, I'm sorry: You didn't call me a bad driver, you merely *suspected*
me of being a bad driver, for no reason other than that I stated my
understanding of NY traffic law, while never saying that I *liked* it.
Sorry to say I had to stifle a chuckle when I thought of you holding back
the reins of the RS6, surrounded by dozy drivers....talk about frusternation
(in Virginia-speak). Sorry to hear about it.....no really.....I am.
1987 Audi 5kTQ - people don't get out of the way for me, either, and I'm in
1980 Audi 5k - people don't need to get out of the way
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - can't get out of it's own way.
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Although I do drive fast, I've never caused an accident except the
time I hit a male deer with my '94 S4. I wasn't the only driver
suffering "frusternation" (like that word) trying to get by that
women. Even truck drivers were blowing their horns. d;o(
Don't want to make this a UK/US debate - but you've pretty much
summed up all of my driving experiences in the US - anywhere!!
Still, we get our fair share of "fast lane hoggers" in the UK too.
Problem here is that the driving test doesn't include any motorway
driving, so no-one learns how to do it properly.
Just come back from nearly 3 weeks in France - now they know how
to drive! the vast majority of motorways are 2-lanes and they
all flow beautifully no mater how much traffic there is, but I think
that comes from the fact that they are taught to drive properly
in the first place.
Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:22:49 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Maddock
I once taught police officers high performance driving but had to give
it up a couple of years ago because of health (age). Most will tell
you that the worst thing out there is tailgating, but they give few
tickets for it because they have no hard evidence (i.e., radar) to use
in court. Most won't bother to give a ticket for 10 mph over in a 65
mph because that is usually the speed most folks are going.
The trouble begins at the learner's level. Most driving schools
emphasize parallell and can't even get hand positioning correct. The
same school I taught is now teaching teenagers. I've sponsored
several friends' children and attend the school and teach that day.
These kids know nothing about driving except how to put the car in
gear and move. They all know how to parallell park, however. It is
very scarey. Hopefully the school will leave a lasting impression on
them and help them to survive today's crowded highways.
Their parents attend the school to observe, and I usually take them
for a demo ride through each of the exercises. Hopefully they too
will take home some proper driving techniques.
I have driven in France, Switzerland, and Germany. You are correct -
they are excellent drivers and very unforgiving for us rude Americans.
It's very regional. My wife and I lived in West London for several
years, but now when we go back we're startled at how aggressive the
driving is compared to here in Telford. We don't really get traffic here
so people don't get het up so easily.
As for the continent - well, Madrid's dreadful to drive in, but the
Spanish countryside is fine - the drivers are relaxed and don't bother
Paris is a hoot if you don't mind joining in the spirit of adventure the
Parisians have in their driving. Place d'Etoiles for example, has lane
markings, but no on uses 'em - you just choose an exit and head for it
however you fancy.
That's not entirely true. As an instructor (some years ago) I used to
take learners on the A40 round Uxbridge 'cos it was so like a motorway
(hard shoulders, emergency phones, slip-roads etc) that it gave 'em a
chance to see what a motorway was like.
I also gave away a 2hr motorway lesson to anyone who recommended a
friend. About a third of drivers got on in the long run. There's also
the PassPlus system which involves motoway driving.
So Dave, you only had a hint of NJ drivers, assuming you took the NJ
Turnpike.... I learned to drive in Massachusetts and lived there for 15
years and thought THEY were bad until I moved to NJ.... They are the
WORST here, as you have a lot of people that really don't know how to
drive but do it fast anyways. And the more clapped-out the car is, the
faster they go. Talk about frusternation!
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
I didn't take the NJ turnpike. I used I84 and I81 to avoid NY, NJ,
MD, and DC. You are correct about Mass drivers, but they aren't as
bad as VA or CT, and we won't even mention NY. d;o)
I have avoided the I95 corridor for more than 20 years, and do not
Left lane cruising is epidemic here in Louisiana-- it should be a capital
I often dream of the traffic laws here changing to favor the German standard
where rear-ended collisions in the left lane of the expressway are the
person in front's fault for not getting out of the damn way!
I swear I think the driving instructors in Louisiana high schools were
British! Not only do they use the left lane on the freeway, they ALL hug
the curb on the left side of the median when doing a U-turn... dumb, dumb,
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