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Hi all, I am planning to enter the US in May/June and I have ofcourse been looking to purchace a nice car.
I was considering a used S4 with the 2.7L engine....... So what I'm
looking for is links to roadtests, reliability e.t.c for the older version, can you guys help me out with that ?? all I can find is stuff about the new S4 with the V8..... nice sled by the way :-)
Here in Denmark a brand new S4 - V8 is just about $177.000 :-)
Thanks Rene Nielsen
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Yeah.. same here in Holland. Those lucky yanks.. And they get their gas almost for free too - while we pay over *gasp* $6 per gallon
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On 29 Jan 2004 06:45:10 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (Bram) wrote:

Oh my god...... we "only" pay a little over $5.
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How does that equate to US dollars or Euros? What is a typical manager, lawyer, doctor salary in Holland? How much does a single family detached house cost in the 2000 square foot size range in 1/2 acre?
Your cars sound outrageously priced from a US perspective, but I don't understand the actual purchasing ability trade offs.
I do know you guys get a lot more vacation than we do : - )
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That was converted into US$..

Ofcourse this varies quite a bit, but if you make more than US$60,000 per year you're doing very well (way above average).

I dunno.. In Amsterdam I paid US$200,000 for a 3-room appt. w/ kitchen. and no garden or whatever. (nor central heating, parking, or any other kind of luxury). But then Amsterdam sucks huge donkey balls anyway. I can't wait to leave this overrated hellhole but my work keeps me here for now.

That's because of cartels, extreme taxes (in Holland there's an additional luxury tax on cars called BPM which almost doubles the price of a car) and other things that no civilised country should endure. So a humble TT is all I can afford, and even that is considered something quite special (in case you're curious: that's US$55,700 for the simple 180BHP version).

That's the only positive thing, yes.
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In the uk I pay 0.81ukp per litre for Shell Optimax which equals $6.60 per gallon (uk gallon) or $5.5 per gallon (us gallon).
Which is generally frowned upon in the uk.
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What - you euro-folk don't like our super-sized US gallons? ;-)
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US gallons are less.
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Gack! You are clearly a threat to global peace! Our President (you know him as the Smirking Chimp) will declare you part of the Evil Empire and target your location for a MOAB strike, shortly.
/daytripper (whoops! yet another failure of US Intelligence ;-) '00 s4 6spd
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He would have to be careful striking here in the uk he may end up destroying his own aircraft. ;-)
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1 UK gallon = 1.2 US gallons
Thursday, January 29, 2004
1 US Dollar = 0.81 Euro 1 Euro (EUR) = 1.24 US Dollar (USD)
Median price was NA / NA (bid/ask)
OTHER RELEVANT CONVERSIONS
1 US Dollar = 0.55 British Pound 1 US Dollar = 105.92 Japanese Yen 1 US Dollar = 1.26 Swiss Franc
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Got to be carefull when comparing gas prices between NA and Europe.
Here in Canada, the highest octane available is 94 from Sunoco but generally Supreme is 92 octanes. I understand Shell Optimax is 98 octanes. So when you hear a Candaian stating a price per litre, its probably for the regular gas (petrol) which is 87 octane - which currentlyruns at about $0.72 per litre, but last week was $0.65. 92 octanes is plus $0.10.
Although you Euros are still paying more.
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Shell Optimax is 98 octane. Most Unleaded in the uk is rated at 95. We also get other producers with 97 ron. Confused ? 95 ron is about 0.75/0.76ukp per litre. ( I can't be bother to do the dollar translation again. Sorry). I don't think it is possible to get any lower octane petrol than 95 here.
Because of the high cost of fuel over here diesel engine cars are becoming very popular for higher mileage owners but I strangely bought a 2.8 a4 !!!
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What Octane measurement is used in the UK?
There are 2 values measured in the US which are Research Octane Number (RON) and Motor Octane Number (MON). The value posted on the pump (by law) is the Anti Knock Index (AKI). AKI is (RON+MON)/2
I suspect that your UK 95 Octane might be our US 91 AKI Octane and your UK 91 Octane our (US) 87 Octane
In the Cincinnati, Ohio, USA area the new Shell Premium gasoline is the 93 (AKI) octane V-Power.
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I believe it is measured as RON. At least thats what it says on the pumps.
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Alright! That answers that question.
When I was younger we (US) also measured octane in RON. Somewhere in the mid to later 70's the AKI was introduced to solve the problem of engine knocking at high and low speeds (RON measures one, MON measures the other)
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wasn't this because they took out the lead in gas??
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No. Lead reduction in automotive gasoline began in 1973 but it was not legally withdrawn by the EPA until 1996 although it has been in dwindling supply for some years. It is still available for off-road use.
The Motor method was developed back in the 20's and the Research method was developed in the early 40's for the octane needs of high compression aircraft engines.
They measure different "types" of motor use but are measured on the same test engine whose current design is very similar to the originals and has been in use since 1952. (Waukesha Engine)
There have been other rating methods proposed over the years. Most are derivations of the established methods or are specific to an engine's design or to specific operating conditions.
There is another interesting fuel octane measurement referred to as sensitivity. Sensitivity = RON - MON . Because the two test methods use different test conditions, especially the intake mixture temperatures and engine speeds, then a fuel that is sensitive to changes in operating conditions will have a larger difference between the two rating methods. Modern fuels typically have sensitivities around 10. The US 87 (RON+MON)/2 unleaded gasoline is recommended to have a 82+ MON, thus preventing very high sensitivity fuels [39]. Recent changes in European gasoline's has caused concern, as high sensitivity unleaded fuels have been found that fail to meet the 85 MON requirement of the EN228 European gasoline specification

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It is not quite free. I paid $1.79 per gallon for Premium at my last fillup. That is a bit more than the $0.329 per gallon I paid for premium gasoline when I was younger. Regular grade was about 2 cents per gallon cheaper but it was often available during "gas wars" for 19.9 cents a gallon.
As I recall about 41 cents per gallon is tax. What amount of tax are you paying per gallon?
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JPB357 wrote:

Compared to $5-6 a gallon? That's pretty close to free.
-- Mike Smith
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