Re: Fuel prices aren't dropping


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and how are we supposed to know which group you are talking about? ;-)) hehe.. -john
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(top post corrected)

I don't know how you'll figure it out, but the rest of us will merely have to check the headers of the message he was responding to, where we find a.a.a-r to be alt.autos.alfa-romeo.
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Mark Allread wrote:

you are right, maybe I should have guessed a.a.a-r meant alfa-romeo ;-)
Although I know alfa-romeo exists, I have never looked to this brand of car neither was I close to be able to guess that a.a.a-r meant alfa-romeo, unless I spend some cycles of my brain to a.a.a-r complains.
What so special about a.a.a-r ng?? People from a.a.a-r keep on complaining about netiquette, top post corrected and crap . The president or some important guy from a.a.a-r even spammed this thread with a link to the the group pseudo home page.
Let people live, cross-posted threads are one of the funniest thing on the ng as long as it remains under control, is not spam, and remains under acceptable level of politeness, then again ;-))
Do you have an alpha I can test-drive (misspelling intended). Maybe I will sleep better after driving one. ;-)
Peace man live and let live.
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America has the greatest medical system in the world - bar none.
I've worked with physicians in several metropolitan hospitals, and the number of foreign politicos & illuminati under their care was impressive.
Why do these foreigners come to America for their health care? It is better and cheaper than their nation's own health care system.
I believe America's biggest problem with our healthcare system are the disconnects between "payment vs. service rendered" and "value vs. customer service".
Every American knows the frustration of receiving a $385 bill for a radiologist they never met and can not rightly understand (or appreciate) the "value" associated with that heinous invoice.
Also, our hospitals are becoming like all American service institutions - there is absolutely no sense of "customer service". If you walked into a car dealership intending to spend $67,000, you will be treated like a god. But, walk into a hospital for a hip replacement, and even the nurses have the "do as I say" attitude.
I think healthcare has been corrupted by third-party payers where either the government or some insurance company pays the bills. The medical professionals give their allegiance to whomsoever directly pays the bill - and they get paid directly by the insurance company or government, not the insured. This displaced allegiance has grievous effects on our health care system.
If you want to see how medicine used to work, look at what happens in private clinics and elective surgery facilities - these doctors & practices must earn their patients. They serve good coffee, have comfortable furniture, and keep management overhead low. If their patients do not have a good experience, they will never see them again.
95% of women who receive breast implants say they would do it again and 85% of cosmetic surgery patients are "extremely satisfied" with these painful, expensive, and first-party-paid procedures. That is because their surgeon knows how to treat the patient - they get top-notch service, have a comfortable environment, and get exactly the service they expect.
Vascular and neuro surgeons do not remotely approach this level of patient satisfaction - and their services are literally "life saving"!
We even complain about an $80 office visit!
We need to re-think how we pay for our medical care because we should lower our expectations while paying more with our current political and social perspectives on medicine.
We want something for nothing, so we insist that government pay for our healthcare all the while misunderstanding where our government gets its money... from us!
Pretty soon, American doctors may very well work for the federal government and we will get hospital systems that operate like our public school systems - inadequate, over-paid, over staffed, under-performing, and unaccountable.
Of course, this is just my opinion, but my experiences have taught me that few people understand what is happening with our healthcare system and what long-term philosophy we're adopting when it comes to healthcare.
Other than this, I have no feelings on the subject... sarcasm.
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Guys, I;ve said it before. This is OT in alt.autos.alfa-romeo
Please remove that group from the x-post
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In February the price of regular was $1.799 in Key West. Many people use premium in vehicles that are designed to use regular. Where I am in PA it is $1.699 now and it was $1,499 in February.
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Your are entitled to your opinion and you can spend your money were you wish, as I do. All I can say is my 2003 Mustang GT convertible was $5,000 cheaper and it 'gets around' at lot quicker than my Solara convertible did, that's for sure. LOL
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What makes you think that, have you owned either one of them? I've owned both. I had problems with the Solara but none with the GT.
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the Solara and it had very few problems.
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The published braking distance, 60 to 0 is 121 feet, better than average. I.E. comparable BMW is 128 feet. Just for the record NO engine can ever overpower the braking system on any vehicle.
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(Cough) 89p/litre here, famously 99.9p per litre in Chelsea, London. And that's just for 95RON [standard unleaded, let's not get into that octane battle again..]
99.9p = $1.84 per litre = $6.97 per US gallon.
Now, you were saying..
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Hairy One Kenobi wrote:

We were saying "if you don't like it, let your MP know!" Your fuel prices are high because your countrymen want them that way (or passively accept it).
-- Mike Smith
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Mike Smith schrieb:

Well, not that there is much one can do about it. The MP will nod and shrug because it's money for the government. If you elect a different government it'll do exactly nothing. Same intentions. Money for the government.
Buying somewhere else is not feasible. Prices are roughly the same all over the place.
Fuel prices are really a method by which a social system controls/supports private transport methods. The USA doesn't have much of public transport (compared to Europe or japan) yet long distance commuting is the standard. Fuel prices in the US at the level of Europe would be a major cause for the national economics slowing down. Not something the government and the customer really wants.
Over here, we're used to it and we know that part of the money we spend on fuel is moved over to ecological projects and supports our social system (not directly, but the money the government saves because the car owners pay directly for roads and ecological repairs can be spent on e.g. health care).
Personally I don't mind paying more for fuel in exchange for a lifetime ensured health care and retirement money.
For that reason I think the comparison is obsolete and not on equal grounds.
YMMV of course
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Wolfgang Pawlinetz wrote:

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. In fact, that's what I was obliquely implying to "Hairy One Kenobi" - if fuel taxes are high in his country, it's because that's the way (the majority of) his countrymen want it.
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..or that we aren't offered an alternative. Short of bringing the entire country to a halt, as happened in 2000.
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Hmm. In 19 years of voting, can't say that I recall ever ticking a box that says "please raise all car-related taxes".
So, what are you suggesting? Armed rebellion (!), or what is starting to look like a possible repeat of the national fuel protests that halted the entire country back in 2000?
Wolfgang, things are a little different over here - in the UK, we pay a wide variety of taxes directly relating to cars, but very little gets put back in - I've tried to find the study that analysed the difference (it was mentioned on BBC Radio 4 a while back), but haven't been able to locate it.
Still, at least I've managed to avoid paying the Speed Camera Tax* - that's an interesting double-whammy, as the Gov'mint also gets to tax you on the increased cost of compulsory insurance..
H1K
* A wonderful British implementation of Dutch technology, whereby you hide cameras in hedges and behind signposts, then take all of the police off of the roads to process the paperwork. (That's not just my view, incidentally, but one shared by friends in the Old Bill)
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Wadda y' know.. just got called-off http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3775727.stm
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Hairy One Kenobi wrote:

Have you (collectively, the subjects of the UK) let your elected officials know that you will not keep putting them in office if they don't do something about fuel taxes? And/or shown favor to candidates who *do* make an issue of fuel taxes (if there are any)?
-- Mike Smith
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There aren't. Hence the problem..
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