Hey I am about to put a very loud, very expensive sound system in my
’98 A4 1.8T. Before I start, has anybody done this and have any
suggestions or things I should know about Audi? I am a professional
installer and I know what I am doing, but have never installed a
system like this in an Audi. So if anyone can think of anything that I
should be aware of let me know..thanks.
if you are curious about what I am putting in, here is a list:
Eclipse 5423 Head Unit
Eclipse DA6213 2-channel Amp (bridged mono RMS 1100w @ 4ohms)
Boston Acoustics GT-40 4-Channel Amp (4x45w RMS @4ohms)
Eclipse SC8254 Component Set (Front)
Boston Acoustics NX-67 (Rear Coaxial)
Two Xtant 12" X-Series Subwoofers
Two 1.2 Farad Phoenix Gold Capacitors
Street Wires and Rockford Fosgate wiring all the way around.
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You may want to check out the audiworld A4 forums, there is always
discussion on sound systems there.... Do a search and you'll probably
come up with what you're looking for....
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
Huh? These days, any solid-state amp that costs over two bucks oughta
have an output impedance measured in tenths or even hundredths of an
ohm. If you mean that the Audi head unit is designed to drive a 2 ohm
*input* impedance, well, that's a good thing, not a bad thing, and
should pose no problem when driving 4-ohm speakers. Meanwhile, if
you're talking about the line-level output impedance, rather than the
speaker-level output, then 2 vs. 4 ohms ain't gonna mean a thing - the
input impedances of today's separate amps tend to be up in the tens of
thousands of ohms.
Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this means
is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going to get
half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
will produce the same volume out of either.
You're talking from the realm of theoretical bla bla bla, I'm describing
real life. What happens in reality is what I said. If you don't believe me,
why don't you just get some hands on and try it yourself with a real BOSE
Then, and only then, are you in a position to discuss this.
Are you an idiot in real life, or do you just play one on usenet?
Sheesh - first of all, Bose *anything* sucks, theory or not. Second,
don't talk theory if you don't want to be corrected when you're wrong.
In comparison to its price, I'd say it was ALL crap. You can get
better-sounding stuff (to these ears, at least) for half the price.
JPR is absolutely right about the car stuff - I have never heard a Bose
car system that was any good. "Acceptable" would be the word I would
use. And for what they charge, it should be "outstanding."
But audio gear is the stuff of myth and demagoguery. In car, in
Second that. The problem is that the components of Audi Bose are not really
Bose in their entirety. For example bass loudspeakers and the CD changer in
my car were Panasonic. That is the real problem, as I imagine if the system
had been labelled Panasonic, the Panasonic guys would have taken greater
care when making the product themselves.
I'm perfectly immune to any criticism coming from individuals like you, Mr
GadaemScweinGemischtChemist. Such indecorous words coming from an otherwise
highly educated would-be Netiquette professor speak volumes about you and
Obviously not, because you keep responding. Just because I am honest
enough to be able to call you oatmeal-for-brains doesn't mean that I'm
not educated as well.
After all, ill-mannered simpletons such as yourself usually do not
understand logic, reason or politeness. So blunt truth in words with
few syllables must be used.
It's too bad you can't understand the physics of what Mr. Smith told
you. Then you wouldn't be so angry with me for pointing out your
Have I written this in words too large for you to comprehend?
The only one who is totally at odds with logic here is you, but that doesn't
surprise me at all, given your poor record and credibility.
Those who call truth their opinions are totally blind of what truth really
I can perfectly understand more phyisics that you ever would, but sometimes
theory doesn't meet practice, and the fact that you want to flatter Smith
here will not gain you any points.
What you completely fail to understand is how short-minded your logic is.
Your words are clearly below anyone's dignity so I will refuse to answer any
more of your ill-bred comments.
The fact that you keep interfering with every thread taking it totally out
of context every time and taking every little opportunity to pick on my
every comment says it all about you and your poor education.
You must be a very frustrated little piece of a man to show such poor
behaviour, Mr GcmsShhhttyGdamGemischtChemist. Oh, God, what a preposterous
username you have. Do I need more proof? LOL
And let me take this opportunity to publicly state I will not be replying to
any more of your ill-bred spurious comments, even if you keep insulting
everyone in this very honourable newsgroup.
Lack of credibility with you? Heh. Lack of credibility with an
anti-Audi whiner is a badge of honor.
I agree. Good thing that I've never done that. You, on the other
Your demonstration of that "opinion" in this thread points more toward
the actual "truth" of the situation. Flatter Smith? He's right, and
you're wrong. No flattery, just a plain acknowledgement of the truth.
That'd be the real "truth," not your opinion dressed up as the truth.
Logic is logic. I realize it interferes with your self-pitying about
owning an Audi that actually required some work. Next time, buy a car
that doesn't require any repairs - problem solved! :)
And yet, here you are, doing your best to get your digs in. You can't
*wait* to come in and trade barbs, just like the impolite oaf that you
are. Then you complain because someone actually returns fire.
No, it shows how little I like ill-mannered folks such as yourself.
Got any more gems of logic there? LOL.
And here you are, slinging mud. The irony is perfect. Did you even
think before you decided to have diarrhea at the keyboard?
You calling me ill-bred is hilarious. I'm sure your parents would be
quite proud of the lout they unleashed on the world. Oddly, I don't
insult anyone be you - do you imagine yourself to be "the newsgroup?"
That's pretty arrogant. Not surprising at all from you.
No, I think I'll continue to point out your whinyness and lack of
logical thought. How you respond is your choice, of course.
Stick to the facts, oatmeal-for-brains, and you won't ever see me post
in response to you. Offer idiotic opinions unsupported by facts, and
I'll be there to correct you.
Yeah dude, Ohm's law, basic current draws and voltage drops, that's
*really* theoretical stuff. So theoretical, in fact, that I learned it
somewhere around 8th grade in shop class.
Yeah, because the theory behind electronics and electric circuits has
*nothing* to do with reality, right? It's all just fairy dust and
Did you check the rated sensitivity of the replacement speakers? 'Cause
if you didn't, you have no way of knowing what caused the reduction in
volume. Could have been any of a number of things. But, unless the
amps in the Audi/Bose system are *incredibly* weak, the one thing that
*didn't* have anything to do with it was the rated impedance,
*especially* if you used *higher* impedance speakers. (Lower impedance
is a different story, as in that case, the amp might not be able to
supply enough current to drive the load.)
Gee, because you've installed a couple of speakers? I've been
*building* speakers for about 15 years now; I may be no Jim Thiel or
David Wilson, but I know at least a *little* about it - at least enough
to know that you, apparently, don't.
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