Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
Other then these two problems the car is fine. The shifter is good,
the clutch has the right feel too. My question is: are all last
generation A6s like this or this particular car is problematic? If
not all A6s like this then I either ask the dealer to fix this one
or will be looking for another one. In case if this is an original
design, then I feel sorry for you guys, you drive a piece of junk.
My wife wants a medium sized car, preferably AWD, and a manual
shifter is a must. The choices are very limited: Audi and Subaru.
They fall into different categories though, but we test drove a new
250 HP Legacy right after we tested a new 530 BMW, and to our
surprise we both found that the Lecacy's handling is very similar
to a BMW's, very precise and responsive, it is a good driver's machine.
We are not ready for a Subaru yet, but we might consider one if
an Audi is not an option.
Thanks for reading,
Winning attitude there, idiot. I don't even own an Audi, and I take
offense to you stating your opinion as fact. I suppose that I could state as
fact that anyone named "Vlad" is an asshole. Give me a break, you come to an
Audi forum to ask help from mostly Audi owners and you insult them while asking
them for feedback. Smart move.
Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
that car and find a different Audi.
2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
were a stick without having to worry about replacing
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:42:17 -0500, Dan Koren wrote:
I just wish the A6 tiptronic offered something closer
to the 0.2 second tip shift in the higher end Euro
sport cars. Seems like most the time our cars are
closer to 3-5 times slower than that. Other brands
measure and brag about their tip shift times. I
haven't seen those numbers in any A6/8 brochure. But
then the typical Audi customer is probably more
concerned about the smoothness of the shift rather than
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 02:59:42 +0000, AustinMini.OsiTech.Net wrote:
Well I have the tip chip already. Sure enough the shifting
itself got faster. But the car still thinks about whether it
should shift or not for nearly a second beforehand. I've heard
some folks report that the GIAC engine chip in addition to
the tip chip improves the response time a bit.
Why are you people giving me advices I did not asked for?
And why do you care what I drive? And how come you have an
opinion about the subject you have no idea about?
I do not care what you drive, just be happy with it. And
why do you think even Cadillac is offering a stick shift
in its CTS regardless of 50 years of technology? I'll tell
you why. Because there is a number of people who knows the
difference. I do not care how fast a slush box is able to shift,
it is not about the shifting speed at all. It is about control,
convenience, comfort and safety if you like, but I doubt that
you'll understand. I do not want buttons, I want a real thing,
pure and perfect.
Stay blindfolded if you like, I dont care.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Thank you,
I've had a very good laugh.
Ironically the car is not even for me, it is for my wife. I'm
quite happy with my two-seater, and not going to replace it
in the nearest future.
But, I have a very bad news for you. I bought her a car, and it
is an A6 with 6 speed. We also considered a BMW 530, which she
liked the most, but in the area where we live having an AWD is
a good advantage, and we decided to get this one. So, I might be
insulting you guys once in a while:)
Sounds like you're the one with a piece of junk. My A4 doesn't suffer
from either one of these problems. See if you can have someone (dealer
or an indy shop) look at the car. Maybe it needs an alignment. And
maybe the gas pedal stiffness can be adjusted.
Volvo S60R comes with a manual tranny. Not sure how good their AWD
system is though.
I've been driving A6s for many years, dating back to when they were 5000 series
(then 100/200). I have never had the troubles you speak of. I would search
for a different Audi, because that one is acting strangely. Consider the A6
with the 4.2 engine and Tiptronic xmsn. Great car.
I owned a Suby one time. Broke it within a year. Traded it in for a VW
Synchro (Audi engine/running gear).
Was that a Passat or a Bora/Jetta ? Sychro was the name given to the older
VW's 4wd system, which they now call 4-motion over here, if it was a Bora
how did you find the Haldex Vs Torsen, as you now have RS?
I've never driven a Haldex 4wd but can't imagine I would feel as secure as I
do in my A4.
It was an 86 Quantum Synchro with an Audi five cylinder and an Audi transaxle.
It was the same as an Audi 4000 except with a VW wagon body. Great car.
Joanne and I rallied in it for several years, finally giving it to my
son-in-law when we bought a 90 5 cylinder Turbo 200 wagon.
Sychro was the name given to the older
I believe the Quantun had Torsen also, I may be wrong, but I believe it had
the same running gear as an Audi, and not one of VW's engine/transaxle.
Love the RS6. Just coming up on 15K joy filled miles. It embarasses the hell
out of most Corvettes and Porsches, but blasting STS "Dudes" is about as much
fun as you can have in any car.
Operative word being "quattro". I've driven a friends 1.8T and it's a lot of
When you get to be an old geezer and the kids are edumacated and the house is
paid off, *then* ya can get that RS6. I never would have made it to old
geezerhood if I had an RS6 when I was 21.
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