Why are Germans electronically challenged?

If it is a product that involves electronics or software, and it's from Germany, it is likely to look very good but be a buggy piece of shit.
Why is it so difficult for them to get electronics or software
engineering right?
Is the beer too strong?
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I think Germans tend to solve problems through precision manufacturing while others try to solve problems through simplification.
Remember early VCRs? They had heavy cast aluminum frames reinforced with hardened steel rods. All components were mounted on threaded pillars to ensure absolute factory precision. Anything less perfect caused the video tape to destructively wrinkle. Later VCRs could keep the tape stable even with cheap plastic parts.
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On 07/08/2010 19:38, * Manco:

For example?

More likely your idea of the world is overly simplistic (you're not American by chance, are you?). FYI: only very little of the electronics in Audis (or any other German car) is made in Germany. In fact, the majority is designed and produced somewhere in eastern Europe or in Asia.
I can assure you that Germany can do electronics right (which they have demonstrated many times in the past). However, in a world that is mainly money-driven making these things in Germany is simply too expensive, so most suppliers to the car industry have outsourced these things to countries where the technical expertise isn't necessarily there yet.
The actual amount of electronics made in Germany in an Audi, VW, BMW or Mercedes is probably around the same as for Toyotas, Hondas, Buicks, Fords, Jaguars, or any other car brand.
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A lot of their musical equipment, for example the Access Virus TI.

No, I'm not American. Also I've worked with electrical and software engineers from all over the globe and I see this recurring confusion pattern every time I work with a German engineer. Sort of like the confusion you're displaying in this thread, are you German by any chance?
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On 08/08/2010 16:03, * Manco:

You mean this one?
"There aren’t many modern synths whose names are spoken with quiet reverence by those who have played them – that honour is usually reserved for vintage instruments. German company Access Music, though, is one manufacturer with a product – the Virus – that enjoys near-legendary status despite being relatively new. Released in 1997, it quickly became a favourite with artists as diverse as Dr. Dre, Faithless and even film composers like Danny Elfman and David Arnold. The company’s latest offering, the Virus TI, represents a significant evolution in the development of this much-loved instrument"[1]
Yeah, sounds completely like a garbage device to me. But I guess you studied the schematics of this thingy extensively and can certainly point me to specifics where the design is indeed a "buggy piece of shit"?

You mean the same confusion that you demonstrated by thinking that all electronics in an Audi is made in Germany?
Ben, who works with engineers from different countries every day, and long enough to know that the capablities and abilities in electronics and software design are more down to the individuum and the education it got than to the country of origin
[1] http://www.musictechmag.co.uk/mtm/reviews/virus-ti
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Don't get me wrong, the Virus TI is a beautiful looking and sounding synth, and as long as you play it solely as a live instrument and keep things simple, you may not have many problems with it. Lots of musicians keep it in their arsenal because it sounds fantastic.
But go to any user group and read about what happens whenever a person tries to use the software to computer integration (the whole reason the TI series was born) to get real production work done. Some days it works, other days not. The software is very ambitious in what it attempts to do, but fails to do it reliabily.
Lots of things that come out of Germany are aesthetically pleasing (or otherwise appealing on the surface) but without exception, the moment you begin expecting any level of reliability, you're in for wide scale disappointment.

I never said all electronics in an Audi are made in Germany. You made that assumption up completely out of thin air, because you are a reading-comprehension challenged, German euro-trash douchebag.
If German autos are sending their electronics to Asia these days, why do they seem unable to make them work reliably, while Asian electronics on Asian cars are much more reliable?
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