When buying or leasing a BMW in California, is there Doc fees or any
Sometimes the dealer just add on whatever fees and we as the consumer
just sign the contract and pay for it.
I am looking for this car to buy with 2-7 days... if you have a price
quote please let me know:
BMW X3 2008 $34960
Titanium Silver Metallic
Cold Weather Package $910
Privacy Glass $320
Leasing for 24 months <==$2500 down
12k annual mileage
Please specify the exact amount at signing, and the exact Monthly
Of course there are doc fees. There are taxes and license fees too. Do you
have any idea how difficult it is to type your name into the computer then
click to spit out the forms? Sheesh, that has got to be worth $100 or so.
From the perspective of the state vis a vis the registration and
documentation, buying or leasing is the same therefore the fees are there
and they are also the same. From the perspective of the dealership, buying
and leasiing are also pretty much the same, they have to document the lien
holder and the buyer/leasee.
I can't see any logic to your question ...
what i mean is, so these are the only 3 fees that we have to pay?
1. document fee - $40 or $200?
2. license fee - DMV standard
coz sometimes, you see the "regional promotional fee" or "preparation
fee"... i heard there are fees that they add on but you don't have to
agree on paying.
The document fee is negotiable. I have only once in my life
payed a document fee, and that was when I had NO choice.
It was a buyback from BMW and everything was set in
concrete. Once you start doing the paperwork, tell the
dealer it will kill the deal unless he drops the fee.
Those fees, and the dealership can add Advertising Fees, and all sorts of
stuff. They claim they have costs associated with being located in an "auto
park" or "dealership mile" or whatever the term is they use. These costs can
be added on as a fee. Think of the fees sort of like the home owner
association fee that one might pay to live in a condo complex. Sometimes the
landlord simply loads the fee into the rent, or he says that you pay them
each month in addition to the rent. On a lease the analogy holds true but on
a purchase the analogy falls apart a little. The point is, there is a dealer
cost assoicated with each car he sells, and the fees are an attempt to
capture some of those costs from the buyer instead of pay from his own
profit margin. Doc, License, and Taxes are reasonable fees for the buyer to
absorb, but the advertising fee, make-ready fee (where they clean the car
before delivery to you) and other such fees are reasonably negotiated out of
the cost to the buyer IF the buyer is strong enough to walk away from a car
Bottom line, the fees are not dependent on buying or leasing because from
the dealership perspective the transaction is the same -- he sells a car to
somebody and you drive it away. He can sell the car to a lease company --
perhaps his own or that of the automaker -- he can sell the car to the
bank -- perhaps his own or that of the automaker -- or he can sell the car
directly to you if you have a fat enough checkbook. In the first two, you
make payments to an entity that has already paid the dealership for the car
you drove away in. The dealer gets paid on the very first day of the
financial agreement, so he does not care that it is a lease, sale to a bank,
or a sale directly to you. With that in mind, the fees are the same --
except sales tax that is collected monthy as part of a lease payment.
Basically, you can refuse to pay these fees and be prepared to walk if they
are not waived, or pay the fees and drive off in a new car. Or, meet
somewhere in the middle.
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