M5 issues.......please advise

Since Monday, 8/8/05 My 00 M5 is STILL in the service shop at the local BMW dealership in Rockville, Maryland.
I returned it after they attempted to fix a lack of power issue without
success.
I brought it in on a 1 week advance appointment at 8AM. I called them at 4PM and they hadn't looked at the car yet.
They called me at 6:20PM to tell me the car was ready (they close at 7PM).
I picked up the car and according to the invoice, replaced the #1 cylinder coil and boot and the two aft oxygen sensors that the codes indicated were bad.
It was obvious they didn't test drive the car properly during Washington DC rush hour which is gridlock by any other name, and the car ran worse than when I brought it in.
Well, since then they have told me they have replaced the #3 and #4 coils and boots, and have ordered two CATS...but the service mgr didn't sound very confident that this would correct the problem. He agreed that the car ran terribly.
I went to the M5 board on the internet and quickly found a thread where they talked about MAPS being dirty and having a tendency to go bad at 50K (Mine has 54.8K).
This morning I called to talk to my service team leader and he told me they replaced the MAPS....although there was no indication of same on the previous invoice.
Is there anybody in here that can help me out here since I am not an auto mechanic maven by any stretch.
All I know is plugs, points and condensor from years gone past.
Any advice or opinions are greatly appreciated.
I want to say that the dealership is a class act and have provided a free rental to me under the BMW certified contract, but it's an uneasy feeling to have an M5 worked on by somebody not seemingly confident in what they are looking for.
It's like they just start replacing things hoping for a fix.
David H.
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Okay, so the saga continues.
Today, they informed my that the main computer shut down and they cannot get the car to start.
They looked up and down the East coast and couldn' find one, so they had to locate on out on the West coast. Fed Exing it...car may be ready on Wednesday, next week.
WTF????
David H.
David Hageman wrote:

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David Hageman wrote:

You may have gotten lucky... This might have been the original problem all along. If not, and they get it running again, I would consider finding another dealership to bring the car to as these guys don't seem to have a clue.
-Fred W
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Malt_Hound wrote:

I agree with you 100%.
I am so nervous that the car will never run the way it should that I am considering selling it.
It's still under warranty until Nov 05. I can extend it for about $2K.
But who wants an M5 that never runs as it should?
David H.
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David Hageman wrote:

$20K cash money.
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On the M5 board there is an ongoing discussion regarding carbon build-up on the 2000-2001 M5 that compromises power output.
They claim it's a repair that could be between $5,000 to $8,000. (ouch)
Somebody suggested that instead of periodically red-lining the vehicle, that you should drive at 60 mph for about 15 miles in 3rd gear....to blow the carbon out.
Any suggestions?
David H.
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On 14 Aug 2005 07:11:17 -0700, "David Hageman"

Sounds like BS to me... Good way to tear the motor up though!
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Psycho wrote:

Yeash, if driving at 60 for 15 miles (15 min.) is going to tear up the motor then these BMWs truly are pieces of shit, and I'm getting rid of mine right away. Any car made today should easily be able to run all day at 4,000 RPM with out hurting it, which is about what 60 mph in third would be.
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:36:55 GMT, Todd Zuercher

I apologize, I didn't read this very carefully. I thought the were suggesting redlin ing the car for 15 miles or so now and then. Hell, I drive harder than 4000rpm every day!
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Sell me your car immediately. It's far, far too dangerous for you to own.
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snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

Okay. Send me a certified check in the amount of $40,000 US, and you can have it.
Jet black-caramel leather interior, 54,800 miles -brand new Michelin Pilot Sports all around. Never red-lined. Bumper to bumper BMW certified warranty to 100K miles expires in Nov.05.
Can be extended for about $2,000.
Let me know. ;^) David Hageman
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On 14 Aug 2005 13:18:15 -0700, "David Hageman"

Never red-lined??
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With all those problems, I'm only able to spend $20,000 USD.
Complain about the car and then ask for blue book?! You're not very good at this mercantile business, are you?
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snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

Uh, I am not complaining about the vehicle.
I've owned 5 BMWs since the late 90's. The M5 is a remarkable automobile.
I am complaining that there isn't a top-flight M-Series mechanic or technician in these dealerships.
They replace things helter-skelter with no results. They treat the matter no differently than an E30 pulling in for an oil change.
They convey the impression that they don't know shit from shinola.
They gave the car back to me without test driving the car under the conditions necessary to verify the problem was solved.
So far, they replaced 02 sensors, cats, MAPS, and now the main computer.
In the meantime, I'm driving a GMC truck...hating life. ;^)
David H.
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All is well with the world again.
Total bill for replacing a couple of coils/boots, 02 senors, cats, MAPS and main computer?
$35.00 (plugs)
Car runs great!
Drove straight to Radial Tire in Silver Spring MD, for a full set of Pilot Sport 2-s...$1233. installed.
Lesson learned.....will pay the 2 grand to extend the warranty before it expires in November.
David H.
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David Hageman wrote:

So now I suppose you want $43,268.00, huh?
Where do I send the check? -- C.R. Krieger (Just shopping)
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C.R. Krieger wrote:

WAAAAAHHHH! I want my black instrument gauges back....I hate the grey color on the replacement!
David H.
PS: We could work something out, Krieger. ;^)
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On 16 Aug 2005 07:06:23 -0700, "David Hageman"

Clueless mechanics? I'm shocked!

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. 8)
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