I own a 2001 525i and I can't find the connector for reseting the oil
light! The only connector I can find is the ODC connector located down on
the dash by the brake and hood release inside the car. I do not know which
pins to ground to reset for the oil light, if it can be done? Everybody
says there is a round military connector under the hood near the fire wall
but I can't find anything like. the only connector I can find is in side
the car and it IS not round it is Square shaped with 16 pin connectors. Can
anybody help me figure this out? The dealership refuses to help unless I
pay them for their $169 oil change which I've already performed because
their price was to high!
Haven't heard that term since chassis grease fittings were done away with
back in the 1960's. Glad you could keep a straight face, as I'd probably
have to ask what is being lubed besides my wallet!
My Honda dealer always throws in a 19 point check, brakes, suspension etc.
with an oil change. Mobil I synthetic, which I use, runs around $5.00 per
qt for a 5 qt capacity. The BMW sounds like the XKE I had in the mid 60s
with a 10 qt change. Of course, probably more reliable. The point is that
I was considering a 3 series BMW until an owner gave me the bad news about
the very high cost of maintenance -- like $2000 for a brake job which is
needed at around 20-30k along with $150.00 oil changes.
Hah. That's a good one. Did you ever ask what those 19 points were and
what they actually did in this "inspection"?
Mobil 1 is about 4.50 retail by the quart. You can buy 5 quart
containers at Walmart for $20 (I'll do the math for you - that's $$ a
quart). Do you really thing the dealerships don't get a huge volume
discount for buying in 55 gallon drum volume? I'll bet they pay less
than $3 a quart.
No, most BMWs have ~8 quart sumps, not 10. Why? Take a wild guess...
If you have more oil volume it will be able to disipate more heat (you
do know that oil is the engine's primary oil coolant don't you?)
withstand more wear and suspend more contaminants than the smaller volume.
job on a BMW (or any other car for that matter). The pads cost the same
as any car (anywhere from $35-85 per axle depending on brand) and even
if you figure in the disks at roughly $80-100 per corner and throw in
$150 per hour NY City labor rates it still doesn't add up to $2000.
But the most amusing (and perhaps telling) thing is that you apparently
ended up with a Honda. Good luck with that automotive appliance, pal.
I'm sure that it will supply many serviceable miles...
OK, I'll buy that. So the entire brake job would be $1000 if one were
inclined to waste their money by bringing it to a BMW dealership for the
job. That's half of $2000, right? How much is a brake job on a Honda
at a Honda stealership? Oh... what's that? about $1000 you say?
Yes. Too bad they have not made one in quite some time...
WTF does that mean? How much does it cost for a 4 corner brake job on a
Honda vs. a BMW at the dealership? Roughly the same was my point,
contrary to the guy who posted $2000. Which would also translate to
roughly the same at in independant garage or in your own driveway. Yes,
you can choose to pay what you want for a brake job, but that is not
determined by which brand car it is.
I'm on dodgy ground? So you are saying NSX's *are* readily available at
the Honda Dealer lot? I did not say a thing about expense or
maintenance. Only they are NOT AVAILABLE: "Too bad they have not made
one in quite some time". Which one of those 11 words confused you?
Nobody is talking about Ferraris. We are talking about 2 brands of cars
here. BMWs and Hondas. Notice I said "which brand car", not "what
So again I ask you, what part do you not understand? You cannot buy an
NSX at an Acura dealership today. They don't make them anymore. When
they did make them they were technically Acuras not Hondas and yes they
were somewhat exciting cars. BUT THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE.
You are the one who seems to have reading comprehension problems.
If you take it to the dealer, you'll pay a dealer price. If you take
it to the local brake place, you'll save money. If you're worried
about the difference between dealer cost and independent, you
shouldn't be driving a Ferrari. Same goes with any other car, a Honda
is cheaper to maintain than a BMW.
I must have missed a lot in the past few days. Where did this come
from? You want to drive a Honda, great. There are thousands of people
out there that also drive Hondas and they are very well built cars.
Those of us in this particular group choose to drive BMW's for various
I'll second this escept for the fact that Mustangs and Corvettes are
no where near as exciting to drive as they used to be. I see Hondas
every day to the point that I don't notice them unless the owner has
done something to make it stand apart from the rest. Unfortunately
that is usually a 3 foot high wing on the back of a Civic....
Good question, the NSX is a rare animal indeed and, as you pointed
out, wasn't a Honda....
Which in turn is cheaper than a Ferrari. That's my point, but Fred's
now headed off into the woods trying to defend himself with pedantry
and semantics. He could probably get himself a job on George Bush's
spin doctor team...
Actually, it was a Honda everywhere except in the USA. Mine has
'Honda Motor Company' literally written all over it, even on the door
sill plates. It's a Honda, but with a Honda badge that's been
squished to look more like an "A" than an "H."
No pedantry or semantics and it is certainly not me that is "woods
bound". My position is (and always has been) that a BMW brake job is no
more (or less) expensive than a Honda brake job.
Read back through the thread to where all this hoop-la began. The
poster "tww", after extolling the virtues of his '01 Honda Prelude said
"I was considering a 3 series BMW until an owner gave me the bad news
about the very high cost of maintenance -- like $2000 for a brake job
which is needed at around 20-30k along with $150.00 oil changes."
My reply was that he was spouting bullshit and that a brake job done at
a BMW dealership was no where near $2000. I also congratulated himself
for buying an automotive appliance. I never said that NSXes were
appliances, not did I ever even say that all Hondas are appliances,
though that is certainly true (IMO) of what you can buy currently at a
Honda (or Acura) dealership.
I made the point that a brake job at a BMW dealership and the same job
at Honda dealership will cost you aproximately the same money. Care to
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