FWIW, I just stopped by my dealers parts department and they told me that
the BMW full synthetic oil ($4.98 per quart) is *NOT* the same as anything
currently sold under the Castrol name. According to the them, it contains
extra "additives" specifically designed for BMW engines.
Actually - I do. I've seen oil analysis that were done on other BMW
oils, and on oils from the same company that produces the oil for BMW.
The additive packages were quite a bit different.
I see no reason why BMW wouldn't and couldn't and didn't specify a
different additive package. If you have some reason to think this - quit
with the smart-ass and let us all know. Otherwise.. it's just your opinion.
Just my opinion, smart-ass remark retracted. I'm rather surprised,
actually, given all the hundreds of types of oil that already exist, that
they felt the need to blend something themselves -- and given that,
shouldn't we all be worried that we aren't using BMW oil in our cars? The
last being the real reason for my skepticism.
You may very well be right about the additives, but I think the focus here
is on why the price is so high. Unless they can justify this, people will
just assume that it's the old "pay through the nose at the dealer" thing.
I would gladly pay the price if it could be explained to me and justified.
What high price are you talking about? The other poster said it's
$4.98 at his dealer. The BMW synthetic oil has an MSRP of $4.80,
according to my last receipt, but my BMW dealer charged me $3.60/qt
with my BMWCCA discount last September. I went to Pep Boys and Mobil
1 synthetic costs $5.29/qt. At AutoZone, Castrol Syntec used to cost
$4.99/qt. In fact, I've never seen a brand name full synthetic oil
for less than about $4/quart which is at Costco for a 6qt Mobil-1
container at just under $24.
Which part, that BMW synthetic oil is not the same as anything sold
under the Castrol name or that the BMW synthetic oil contains extra
additives specifically designed for BMW engines?! The former is a
fact, at least for Castrol products sold in the USA, so yes, I believe
that. The latter, I don't know.
Sorry Russ, you're wrong. BMW lubricants sold at dealerships all contain an
extra additive (referred to as IVA-Invisible Value Added), to ensure it
meets the "IMLS" (Insane Markup Lubricants Standard) specifications.
Now-hands up again?
Okay, you can all lower your hands. (Both of them Russ).
I was told the same thing by the BMW dealer I buy my oil from. Their
parts dept charges only $3.80 per qt. This is less expensive than any
other synthetic oil that I see at the auto parts stores. I buy the oil
filter at the same time and they are only $8.50. That's even cheaper
than most auto parts stores. Who would have thunk you can get such a
deal at the dealer?
Exactly. And lots of US dealers offer 10-20% discounts off THESE prices
if you are a member of the BMW Car Club of America. Combine that with
the $500-1000 kickbacks BMW-NA sends you for being a member and buying a
new BMW ($$$ depends on the model, but also includes $500 for CPO cars,
have to be a CCA member for 1 year or more..) and you gotta be a fool
NOT to be a CCA member.
For those interested: <http://www.bmwcca.org - and no, I'm only a
member (of quite a few years) who finds value in the club.
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