so have you driven a bentley and a ferrari to make the comparison? a
bentley from what Ive heard is just lux. no "feel of driving". the
ferrari on the other hand, is a lot harder to drive around town.. its
a good if you live in the country with long winding roads... although
uncomfortable if you are driving around for more than an hour or so.
Ive driven a 308 and spent about 15 min behind the wheel of an Enzo,
and they are amazing... its not about anything but pure performance,
the way your stomach sinks into the seat when you drop the clutch and
hit second is a feeling unlike anything else. So really? a bentley,
then why the bimmer over a merc? Merc is more lux and less drive,
where the bimmer is more drive and feel with the lux on top.
Let's lop off most of the extraneous information (although noting a
significant weight differential against the BMW might matter to some)
and take another look at your figures. For starters, not one of the
cars for which you listed a price retailed for less than *50% more*
than the M1, so in terms of 'bang for the buck' it is the clear
winner. Only the Porsche is more than a half second quicker to 60 mph
while the only other one to beat it at all (the TR) has 3-4 years more
technology development time. The M1's top speed is right in the
middle of that pack, too. So I guess I must be missing your point.
BMW built a perfectly competent supercar when they tried. They no
Frankly, no, I wouldn't. While I don't have the money to drive a
current super exotic, I certainly *do* have the money to drive
something other than the 21-year-old BMW 535is I have as my 'summer'
car. I drive it because I like it and because, with it, and my
training and experience, I can pretty much outdrive almost everyone
else on the road, horsepower or not. With more cash, it might get a
turbo ... or with a *whole lot* more cash, a 3.0CSL or a 507 as a
stablemate. Maybe even an M1 ... ;^)
BMW, sadly, is now making FWD crap as well, too. I'd buy a Mini in an
instant if it had proper RWD and if I could get the sport option without
having to give up the spare tire. The Mini is actually a fun car and
close to the traditional BMW feel. But the FWD and the thought of having
to drop that transaxle someday keeps me away.
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
None, any more. I had a 1999 TDI 110. Currently I've got a Fabia vRS,
which is nice. Not as plush, but for the money it's a good car.
Economical, fast enough, handles OK (bearing in mind it's a VAG FWD
Diesel hatch!). The A3 was nice. I know that 'it's just a Golf 4 you pay
too much for', but I really liked it, and beyond servicing & a cambelt
change it probably only cost a few hundred quid in repairs for 50k
miles- and did 48-50 mpg pretty much all the time.
If I had the money or a company car allowance, I'd be there- well there
or Golf V. I want a DSG or auto car really- my left leg starts aching in
heavy traffic, and the Fabia's clutch is by no means heavy. Problem is,
I need diesel for the economy, and I need a smallish car as my drive is
short. That limits the choice, and really I just want to stay with VAG,
because I'm a fanboi.
I'm not keen on the styling, or the attitude of some people to a BMW on
the road, but I wouldn't say they looked stupid. Just a bit over-styled.
You're right, of course, but my point was the A3 was quicker *and* more
economical. A colleauge has a manual diesel 1 series, and loves it, and
reports it does 45-47 mpg. I'd like to try one to see what I thought,
and I'd also like to try petrol/diesel A3s with DSG. Like I said
elsewhere in the thread, I think a BMW 1 with a diesel engine, better
seats (the standard ones were not supportive) and (maybe) a manual would
be much better for me.
The problem with the 120 was I didn't see much past 28 mpg even in
gentle driving. I wasn't expecting high 40s, but it would have been nice
to see 35mpg or more. We went on holiday from the midlands to the
Scottish highlands in it, and the fuel consumption was noticeable- we
did a similar journey in the Fabia vRS recently, and despite maintaining
a higher avrage speed, didn't have to stop for fuel this side of
Glasgow, like we did in the 120. The slushbox, like I said, was far too
keen to shift down. I ended up using the manual shift quite a lot.
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