1994 GMC SLE 350 ci. Truck windshield wiper problem.

This is Turtle.

I'm not sure if i have the right form for this but it seem to be. I would like to get answer to a strange problem with the windshield wipers and how they act.

here is what it is doing.

if i blow the horn, turn on the lites, turn the turn signal to the left and not to the right, or hit a bad bump. the windshield wipers will turn on for

3 wipes, then cut off but them sometimes it will stay on for about 10 wipes then cut off. Weard stuff here. It does not do it sometimes and works fine for a day or two then back to doing it. Now it is doing it all the time.

now here is what has been done to it already and after 4 mechanics have worked on it. 1) it has a new blinker and wiper rod changed out that controls the wipers, cruise control, and washer / washer for water on windshield.

2) '' New'' Power strearing box with all new attachments with all new fan belts. 3) Auto zone put computor on it says no problem. 4) Chevy Dealership put computor on it and said no problem. the chevy dealership cost me $200.00 to put computor on it and worked on it to try to get a ideal. They said must be a short in the wiring somewheres. 5) ''New'' Wiper motor and computor board to go on it. 6) ''2 Mechanics says '' it is in the steering housing , and ''1 Mechanics says'' it is the main computor for the truck and ''1 mechanic says'' it is a short in the electrical wiring of the system.

here is the break down on cost to fix it.

Stearing assembly replacement ------ $ 500.00 + Computor replacement and another part added to it ----- $ 750.00 + Buy a new one at $28,000.00 + Trouble shoot all wiring of the system Mech. Didn't know but ask how much money do you have?

I can't get any of the mechanic to say it will really fix it or not and says if this don't do it we will try something else. This tring at $500.00 to $750.00 a pop just don't set well with me. Tring and fixing is two different things.

So does anybody ever heard of this or have any ideals as to what it is ?

If you like E-mail me at snipped-for-privacy@worldnetlaeee.net but remove the three ''eee''.

TURTLE

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I would be looking very close at the turn signal switch and its wiring going through the column, along with the wiper switch who's wiring goes through the column right next to it......Start by checking under the dash where all the wiring from the wipers, signals, and horn are connected and then pull the steering wheel and check there and down the column(all the wires for the horn, signals, and wipers go down the column right next to each other) There is no way the computer for the truck is doing it. It has nothing to do with the wipers, lights, horn, ect. My best guess would be a short in the column, I would pull the turn signal switch out and have a good look at the wires. GL

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Scott M

This is Turtle.

You made the most sence of all and i think you got it nailed down by what you say. i guess i will turn the wire short hunter mechanic loose on it to hunt it down. I will wait till monday for any add on here to the problem and then turn him loose. i can see where you can get shorts in there with no one ever working on that steering area at all since it was made.

I thank you very much for it is hard to get good help with brains now days.

TURTLE

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1994 GMC SLE 350 ci. Truck windshield wiper problem. Group: alt.trucks.chevy Date: Sun, Oct 5, 2003, 1:52am From: snipped-for-privacy@worldnetla.net (TURTLE) This is Turtle. I'm not sure if i have the right form for this but it seem to be. I would like to get answer to a strange problem with the windshield wipers and how they act. here is what it is doing. if i blow the horn, turn on the lites, turn the turn signal to the left and not to the right, or hit a bad bump. the windshield wipers will turn on for 3 wipes, then cut off but them sometimes it will stay on for about 10 wipes then cut off. Weard stuff here. It does not do it sometimes and works fine for a day or two then back to doing it. Now it is doing it all the time. now here is what has been done to it already and after 4 mechanics have worked on it. 1) =A0 it has a new blinker and wiper rod changed out that controls the wipers, cruise control, and washer / washer for water on windshield. 2) '' New'' Power strearing box with all new attachments with all new fan belts. 3) =A0 Auto zone put computor on it says no problem. 4) =A0 Chevy Dealership put computor on it and said no problem. the chevy dealership cost me $200.00 to put computor on it and worked on it to try to get a ideal. They said must be a short in the wiring somewheres. 5) =A0 ''New'' Wiper motor and computor board to go on it. 6) =A0 ''2 Mechanics says '' it is in the steering housing , and ''1 Mechanics says'' it is the main computor for the truck and ''1 mechanic says'' it is a short in the electrical wiring of the system. here is the break down on cost to fix it. Stearing assembly replacement ------ $ 500.00 + Computor replacement and another part added to it ----- $ 750.00 + Buy a new one at $28,000.00 + Trouble shoot all wiring of the system Mech. Didn't know but ask how much money do you have? I can't get any of the mechanic to say it will really fix it or not and says if this don't do it we will try something else. This tring at $500.00 to $750.00 a pop just don't set well with me. Tring and fixing is two different things. So does anybody ever heard of this or have any ideals as to what it is ? If you like E-mail me at snipped-for-privacy@worldnetlaeee.net but remove the three ''eee''. TURTLE......

Yep sure sounds to me like a wire problem.How much money do you have means. we are going to except all your money .Park it in the garage (more then likely not even touch it)Then at the end of the day tell you

an open wire somewhere.May it be in the harness or in the switch.Ya dont need a computer,nor a steering assem.A scanner will not tell you if you have a intermidiate short in your switch or harness.So trying that is just a waste of money.Sounds like you have a whole bunch of lawnmower mechanics trying to fix cars .If they tell you it may not fix it .well it probly wount.Sure well all make mistakes sometimes but i think these guys are just trying to rob you.

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Steve Cook

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Bobo

this is Turtle.

You know that un plugging the switch at the blinker rod is a good ideal for if it is bleeding over it will still turn on the wipers anyway. i think I can do that and see. That's a good ideal.

TURTLE

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TURTLE
1994 GMC SLE 350 ci. Truck windshield wiper problem.

Group: alt.trucks.chevy Date: Sun, Oct 5, 2003, 1:52am From: snipped-for-privacy@worldnetla.net (TURTLE) This is Turtle. I'm not sure if i have the right form for this but it seem to be. I would like to get answer to a strange problem with the windshield wipers and how they act. here is what it is doing. if i blow the horn, turn on the lites, turn the turn signal to the left and not to the right, or hit a bad bump. the windshield wipers will turn on for 3 wipes, then cut off but them sometimes it will stay on for about 10 wipes then cut off. Weard stuff here. It does not do it sometimes and works fine for a day or two then back to doing it. Now it is doing it all the time. now here is what has been done to it already and after 4 mechanics have worked on it. 1) it has a new blinker and wiper rod changed out that controls the wipers, cruise control, and washer / washer for water on windshield.

2) '' New'' Power strearing box with all new attachments with all new fan belts. 3) Auto zone put computor on it says no problem. 4) Chevy Dealership put computor on it and said no problem. the chevy dealership cost me $200.00 to put computor on it and worked on it to try to get a ideal. They said must be a short in the wiring somewheres. 5) ''New'' Wiper motor and computor board to go on it. 6) ''2 Mechanics says '' it is in the steering housing , and ''1 Mechanics says'' it is the main computor for the truck and ''1 mechanic says'' it is a short in the electrical wiring of the system. here is the break down on cost to fix it. Stearing assembly replacement ------ $ 500.00 + Computor replacement and another part added to it ----- $ 750.00 + Buy a new one at $28,000.00 + Trouble shoot all wiring of the system Mech. Didn't know but ask how much money do you have? I can't get any of the mechanic to say it will really fix it or not and says if this don't do it we will try something else. This tring at $500.00 to $750.00 a pop just don't set well with me. Tring and fixing is two different things. So does anybody ever heard of this or have any ideals as to what it is ? If you like E-mail me at snipped-for-privacy@worldnetlaeee.net but remove the three ''eee''. TURTLE......

Yep sure sounds to me like a wire problem.How much money do you have means. we are going to except all your money .Park it in the garage (more then likely not even touch it)Then at the end of the day tell you

an open wire somewhere.May it be in the harness or in the switch.Ya dont need a computer,nor a steering assem.A scanner will not tell you if you have a intermidiate short in your switch or harness.So trying that is just a waste of money.Sounds like you have a whole bunch of lawnmower mechanics trying to fix cars .If they tell you it may not fix it .well it probly wount.Sure well all make mistakes sometimes but i think these guys are just trying to rob you.

this is Turtle.

Yea , iknow they have shit for brains but they are , I guess , Learning and one day might know what to do about a problem like this. I have a uncle in Fort Worth , Texas and knows the shop forman at Dubshaw Ford in Forth Worth and He said to bring it over there and he would fix it. Forth Worth , Texas is about 490 miles one way and 490 miles back. It's hell having to drive a

1,000 miles to get a windshield wiper to work.

TURTLE

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TURTLE

this is Turtle. Yea , iknow they have shit for brains but they are , I guess , Learning and one day might know what to do about a problem like this. I have a uncle in Fort Worth , Texas and knows the shop forman at Dubshaw Ford in Forth Worth and He said to bring it over there and he would fix it. Forth Worth , Texas is about 490 miles one way and 490 miles back. It's hell having to drive a 1,000 miles to get a windshield wiper to work.

TURTLE

steve cook wrote..... You wouldnt happen to live in Texas would you?If you do in what parts?I may be able to help .Im in the RGV deep south texas .but on the other hand know people in the Houston area .

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Steve Cook

I would keep looking until I found someone who said something along the lines "For xxx I will fix it" then you say "and if it isn't fixed, you don't get paid - period". You'll go through allot of people like that but should find it. Other than that, you should be able to just hook up a switch of some kind to make it work and bypass all the OEM wiring.

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KJ

I got some literature in the mail concerning the windshield wiper motor under a recall. Check that route too...in case all it is, is a bad board in the motor. This recall seems liberal, and your truck falls in it. GM also stated that they would refund (some portion) of the repair, if you have had it done outside the dealer.... Someone like Doc, or Gary probably knows the ins and outs of this recall better than I.

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this is Turtle.

Till i get it fixed i could put me a switch that brakes the fuse link when not in use. that's a pretty good ideal. thank you there.

TURTLE

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TURTLE

This is Turtle.

Yea , i've been there and it is under the recall , but it is for just stop working because something gets hot. The shorting out when you turn the lites on or the blinker on is not in the recall. the problem lies in the motor / Board problem. i did however have my truck schualed to be looked at anyway and hoping it may have something to do with it. Thank You there.

TURTLE

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TURTLE

This is Turtle.

This message is for Scott M. , Steve Cook , KJ , Bobo, and EightupMan. I could not get anybody to commit on what it was , so Me and the help started taking that GMC apart. We started at the steering wheel and pull everything out including lite switch to see it. We traced every wire there was in there and found nothing wrong as bad connections / short of any kind. Then we took apart the bundle of wires going out the fire wall to engine area. We trouble shot the wire outside back to steering wheel area. we left alone the dash wire to do later if we have to pull the dash. We traced on out to battery , engine, wiper motor, some black boxes i never say before, fuse boxes / Terminal blocks, nitemare from hell bundles of wires, and all horn and light circuits. We run new grounds from battery to dash, fire wall, and engine. had no luck at all. We was going to start going back under the dash to start there when we was finishing up checking all ground circuits to horn , lites, and parking lite.

Now with everything scatered everywhere and ever wire open to be inspected and steering wheel half way off and I have used every profane word known to man. A Brass band jumped out of my ass playing Who'd have thought it when i check the ground connection for the driver side head lites. I cleaned the connection that attached to a screw to the side wall of the engine area near the front wheel well. When i connected it back and all the trouble stopped and worked fine. I don't understand it for just a ground wire to the head lites on the finder wall cause so much hell. I have my Help putting it back together right now and have to stop this writting to consult with him on where this goes or where that goes. He should be through in about a Hour or so.

this post is to all the above for their help in trouble shooting the problem and I would like to thank all very much.

Now does anybody understand or know what happen by this ground wire causing so much hell ? If not Thank All anyway !

TURTLE

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TURTLE
. 1994 GMC SLE 350 ci. Truck windshield wiper problem. Group: alt.trucks.chevy Date: Sun, Oct 5, 2003, 1:52am From: snipped-for-privacy@worldnetla.net (TURTLE)

This is Turtle. I'm not sure if i have the right form for this but it seem to be. I would like to get answer to a strange problem with the windshield wipers and how they act. here is what it is doing. if i blow the horn, turn on the lites, turn the turn signal to the left and not to the right, or hit a bad bump. the windshield wipers will turn on for 3 wipes, then cut off but them sometimes it will stay on for about 10 wipes then cut off. Weard stuff here. It does not do it sometimes and works fine for a day or two then back to doing it. Now it is doing it all the time. now here is what has been done to it already and after 4 mechanics have worked on it. 1) =A0 it has a new blinker and wiper rod changed out that controls the wipers, cruise control, and washer / washer for water on windshield.

2) '' New'' Power strearing box with all new attachments with all new fan belts. 3) =A0 Auto zone put computor on it says no problem. 4) =A0 Chevy Dealership put computor on it and said no problem. the chevy dealership cost me $200.00 to put computor on it and worked on it to try to get a ideal. They said must be a short in the wiring somewheres. 5) =A0 ''New'' Wiper motor and computor board to go on it. 6) =A0 ''2 Mechanics says '' it is in the steering housing , and ''1 Mechanics says'' it is the main computor for the truck and ''1 mechanic says'' it is a short in the electrical wiring of the system. here is the break down on cost to fix it. Stearing assembly replacement ------ $ 500.00 + Computor replacement and another part added to it ----- $ 750.00 + Buy a new one at $28,000.00 + Trouble shoot all wiring of the system Mech. Didn't know but ask how much money do you have? I can't get any of the mechanic to say it will really fix it or not and says if this don't do it we will try something else. This tring at $500.00 to $750.00 a pop just don't set well with me. Tring and fixing is two different things.

So does anybody ever heard of this or have any ideals as to what it is ?

TURTLE ////////////////////

Turtle, check the ground circuits on the headlamps, the circuit is a common ground with the horn, and wipers.

i would start at the chassis ground strap at the headlamps....

hope we saved you some time

scrib abell

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Scribb Abell
1994 GMC SLE 350 ci. Truck windshield wiper problem.

Group: alt.trucks.chevy Date: Sun, Oct 5, 2003, 1:52am From: snipped-for-privacy@worldnetla.net (TURTLE)

This is Turtle. I'm not sure if i have the right form for this but it seem to be. I would like to get answer to a strange problem with the windshield wipers and how they act. here is what it is doing. if i blow the horn, turn on the lites, turn the turn signal to the left and not to the right, or hit a bad bump. the windshield wipers will turn on for 3 wipes, then cut off but them sometimes it will stay on for about 10 wipes then cut off. Weard stuff here. It does not do it sometimes and works fine for a day or two then back to doing it. Now it is doing it all the time. now here is what has been done to it already and after 4 mechanics have worked on it. 1) it has a new blinker and wiper rod changed out that controls the wipers, cruise control, and washer / washer for water on windshield.

2) '' New'' Power strearing box with all new attachments with all new fan belts. 3) Auto zone put computor on it says no problem. 4) Chevy Dealership put computor on it and said no problem. the chevy dealership cost me $200.00 to put computor on it and worked on it to try to get a ideal. They said must be a short in the wiring somewheres. 5) ''New'' Wiper motor and computor board to go on it. 6) ''2 Mechanics says '' it is in the steering housing , and ''1 Mechanics says'' it is the main computor for the truck and ''1 mechanic says'' it is a short in the electrical wiring of the system. here is the break down on cost to fix it. Stearing assembly replacement ------ $ 500.00 + Computor replacement and another part added to it ----- $ 750.00 + Buy a new one at $28,000.00 + Trouble shoot all wiring of the system Mech. Didn't know but ask how much money do you have? I can't get any of the mechanic to say it will really fix it or not and says if this don't do it we will try something else. This tring at $500.00 to $750.00 a pop just don't set well with me. Tring and fixing is two different things.

So does anybody ever heard of this or have any ideals as to what it is ?

TURTLE ////////////////////

Turtle, check the ground circuits on the headlamps, the circuit is a common ground with the horn, and wipers.

i would start at the chassis ground strap at the headlamps....

hope we saved you some time

scrib abell

--------------------------------------------------------------- This is turtle.

scrib , Read the post by myself right above you here. i've been to hell and back and ten hours later then found the problem with the ground strap as you say to the head lites on the driver side near windshield wipper spraier tank. Now you tell me.

Thank you anyway .

TURTLE

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