GM trucks

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"jg9100@gmail.com"  wrote in message

Hi I had a 99 suburban since it was new. I loved the truck in spite of
all the design flaws like brakes, charging, door locks, ect. Bottom
line was it was so useful easy to drive  who could complain.. about
how much repairs were needed. On top of that parts are so cheap. So I
had a love hate relationship  for  many years with 99 GMC suburban. I
did repairs myself.
So recently I went to look for new trucks since the suburban died
twice in one week. This 99 suburban had 65K mils on it the engine is
ran like almost new. When I sold it was running really good.
I love GMC since I had a 2004 standard cab with a 4.8L. It was a great
truck in spite of the transmission issues. After looking at the new
2011 GMs it was clear GM is not putting any effort into improving
truck designs. The 4.8L is only available with the same 4 speed
transmission as my 99 Suburban. It was clear to me these are the same
trucks as the 70's with new pushrod engines. They also had 11" drum
brakes in the rear. Only small trucks use drum brakes. Drum brakes,
actually can work but but they should be large hey.. its a truck, lets
have at least 13 Inch drums in the back,, you will still be outdated
but at least they can work. My Suburban could barley stop it self
after a delay in the pedal actuation with 11" drums in the rear though
the big problem was the small front disc brakes..  This was truly a
dangerous vehicle brake wise. I had to put brakes on anything I towed
even if it was 2000 Lbs.
Back to engines  don't get me wrong GM is the best at pushrod engines
in the world  they were are good in 2004 but are now out dated.  They
don't put the 6 speed with the 4.8L which needs it to compete with
ford 4.6L 3V The GM trucks are the same for 2010 as 2011. They can't
compete with the 2011 ford  line up as GM will still have 4 speed
transmissions Vs. fords 6 speed.
Ford 3,7 six will be better than GM 4.8L 8. It will tow much more
maybe 2X No doubt Power towing and performance will be good for new
designs. We wont discuss the 4.3l as it will be virtually worthless.
The 5.3 will fail against Ford 5.0. GM  tuck is lighter but that mat
nor help enough. We know GM 6L is a dog at 350HP it too may fail
against 5,0L and may not fair much better than the 5.3L. We know
Toyota will kill GM too they have a good line up in engines.
Bottom line is Government  motors stands to loose big in tis best
division, the truck division  because of lack of design engineering.
After looking  at GM vs Ford if I could not buy Ford it would be a
Dodge because it is a better truck. I have never owned a Dodge but
they now better than GM at this stage.

Good luck to GM

11 Inch brakes on a 1/2 ton truck is more then good enough.  They stop
great.   Anyone dumb enough to buy a 1/2 ton Suburban got what they
deserved!!!  It's a Larger HEAVY vehicle and yet has a weak brake system
among other things.   If you got the 3/4 ton version the brakes would have
been a whole lot better!!!

Same with the trucks.  You buy the Truck for the Jobs you plan to do with
it.  Be it a 1/2 tone 3/4 tone, 1 ton, maybe a Dually.  Doesn't matter if
it's a Chevy, Ford, or Dodge.

GMs are cheaper then Ford. I wouldn't touch a ford truck.   But they both
rot too much.

I've always thought rear drum brakes  are better then rear disc brakes. They
work better and are better in the rain and snow. . And you stop quicker. And
the pedal feel is better.
Because  rear disc brakes lock up.

Except with ABS . ABS makes rear disc brakes not lock up.  And then they
will work better then the drum brakes.

I have had a couple of Suburbans too.   Nothing new , but a friend has a
2000 , 2001. His are awesome and the brakes are too.

The weight issue is because if the EPA.  Gas mileage  emission  mandates .

I'm not sure of the brake issue.  Order a tow package and maybe the brakes
are bigger.

I don't expect GM to do anything to the Suburban. Its base is $54,000  and
they don't sell many.

On 10/25/2010 10:50 PM, DogDiesel wrote:

Not quite, the base is :  Your Price  $39,875

Aside from the bailout,  I have another reason to hate GM.  I had to replace
one of  the clips holding the tailgate latch rod.  I went to the GovMotors
dealer to get the official Government Motors part, and the little five cent
part cost $7+.  In the process I had broke one of the prongs on the tailgate
latch bezel and had to replace that also.  From the GM dealer that was over
$29.  I did not think that the autoparts place had the clip so I paid over
$7 for it from the dealer, but decided to wait on the bezel.  On the way
home I stopped at an autoparts place and found the bezel  less then $7.

I am tired of customer/manufacturer loyalty running one way.  I have only
owned GM vehicles since 1986 (with the exception of one Dodge).  That ends
with my current vehicle.  I will not even consider a GM vehicle.  My next
truck (or car), will be a Ford or something foreign.

Being an patiotic American has nothing to do with bending over for an
"American" corporation just because it has an American name.  Ford and the
foreign manufactures may be just as bad when it comes to parts, service,
etc., but when it comes time to replace the 03 Silverado, it is time to try
something different.

Here is all the vehicles I have owned in my adult life:

1973 Mercury Comet (wish I still had that)
1983 Ford F-100 (last year for the 100)
1985 Ford Tempo
1986 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
1990 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
1997 Dodge Ram 1500
2000 GMC Sierra 1500
2003 Chevrolet Silverado 1500

Vehicle I want in the future:
3000 Ford Thudercougarfalconbird

I've driven GM, Chrysler, and for a couple weeks, a Ford. My
experience with GM has been good, so far. They do break down, but are
generally dependable. The Chryslers (models from 1974 through to 1980)
have been undependable. I oughta not bought more than one of them.

The Ford I only had briefly, and lost it to a traffic collision. In
that time, I was very pleased with it.

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Christopher A. Young
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Aside from the bailout,  I have another reason to hate GM.  I had to
replace
one of  the clips holding the tailgate latch rod.  I went to the
GovMotors
dealer to get the official Government Motors part, and the little five
cent
part cost $7+.  In the process I had broke one of the prongs on the
tailgate
latch bezel and had to replace that also.  From the GM dealer that was
over
$29.  I did not think that the autoparts place had the clip so I paid
over
$7 for it from the dealer, but decided to wait on the bezel.  On the
way
home I stopped at an autoparts place and found the bezel  less then
$7.

I am tired of customer/manufacturer loyalty running one way.  I have
only
owned GM vehicles since 1986 (with the exception of one Dodge).  That
ends
with my current vehicle.  I will not even consider a GM vehicle.  My
next
truck (or car), will be a Ford or something foreign.

Being an patiotic American has nothing to do with bending over for an
"American" corporation just because it has an American name.  Ford and
the
foreign manufactures may be just as bad when it comes to parts,
service,
etc., but when it comes time to replace the 03 Silverado, it is time
to try
something different.

Here is all the vehicles I have owned in my adult life:

1973 Mercury Comet (wish I still had that)
1983 Ford F-100 (last year for the 100)
1985 Ford Tempo
1986 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
1990 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
1997 Dodge Ram 1500
2000 GMC Sierra 1500
2003 Chevrolet Silverado 1500

Vehicle I want in the future:
3000 Ford Thudercougarfalconbird