installed an Edelbrock 10" air cleaner.. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!

today I took my B-day money and picked up a 10" Edelbrock air cleaner.. the 14" has too deep of a dish to work on my '88 K2500, TBI350. I took it and found the biggest 10" air filter the store had (Fram CA126.. I think, about 4" tall). I removed the PCV spacer on the throttlebody and set the air cleaner base directly on the TB itself. the injectors were finally where they should be... in the air cleaner, not shrouded by the PCV spacer. I ran the truck after.. holy shit what a difference! I'd have never thought it would have made that much of a difference!.

I've got pics on my livejournal

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I'm now plotting my next move... I'm thinking either the Flowtech afterburner headers, Y pipe and new honeycomb cat (still have the original monolithic), or an Edelbrock TBI intake and 1.6 rockers.

I'm not currently running any muffler. The truck sounds awesome, and isn't really that loud at all, I'd say the restrictive monolithic cat is quieting it down alot

new heads are out of the question as I can't afford either new Vortec heads with the GMPP TBI intake or junkyard Centerbolt TPI corvette heads.

any thoughts?

-Bret

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Bret Chase
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Bret,

That's the exact same air cleaner I've been running for 4 years on my 88' C1500 and I'd never go back to a closed-element factory aircleaner again. There is one drawback.................you'll be changing air filters every time you chain oil! They get dirty pretty fast.............

Exhaust is next for me as well. Hooker has a nice set of super comp headers and true duals (pre-bent) for under $400 for the set (including turbo mufflers). I can give ya part numbers if interested.

Doc

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"Doc"

So what's the problem? If they flow a lot of air but stop most of the dirt it sounds like a win, win situation. Beats the hell out of K&Ns crap which flows well but doesn't stop anything smaller than a rat turd from getting in the engine. Air filters are cheaper than engines Bob

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Bob

stop smoking crack

it makes MORE NOISE its not one bit faster

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I'm Right

well I'm not going to argue with you about it. it's no more noisy than the factory air cleaner, except at throttle tip in.

-Bret

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Bret Chase

are you using that tiny 2" tall filter or did you get a taller one like I did?

-Bret

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Bret Chase

I got a 4" element like you have..................Purolator Filter, can get the P/N if you'd like.

Doc

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"Doc"

Uh huh, tell that to my rear tires, which wouldn't lite up with the facotry airbox, but will lite up on command with the Edlebrock unit and huge filter.

Doc

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"Doc"

the Fram CA192 I'm using is only 3.5" tall..... it interchanges to a Purolator A30067... is that what you're using? I'd like to find one that is truly 4" tall, but I was pressed for time when I was at the parts store.

-Bret

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Bret Chase

I'd have to agree somewhat with "I'm Right"... a non-high performance vehicle might gain about 5hp from a change in an air filter alone. There is just no way for anyone to feel an increase of 5hp. On the same note, my truck runs _much_ better just after having been washed and wax. Go figure.

At best, a vehicle migth gain 15hp but this is only in the highest of performance stock vehicles. Even then, it's rare.

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Todd Copeland

Hey Doc, Bret, others- LTNT!!

Doc, would appreciate the PN's for the edelbrock unit, and to know if you're using the K&N filter still with it

I'm thinking it will work well with the Blazer's 4.3 as it uses the same TBI unit your SBC does.

The Blazer will soon be getting that SAS I've been planning and gathering parts for over the past 5 years. Finally got a house, and now have a garage to work in. I'm thinking the wife will actually be HAPPY to see me working on it and taking up most of the garage for a little while, as it'll mean getting at least 1 of the 3 axles, 4 tires and rims, and a host of small parts out of the back yard... ;) >

Doc wrote:

aircleaner

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burntkat

it's the Edelbrock 10" Pro-flo chrome aircleaner. I got it for $24.95 at Autozone. I don't (nor Doc) uses a K&N. I've got a Fram CA192 in mine, I'll replace it with a purolator or a WIX (hopefully a litle taller one) before too long.

-Bret

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Bret Chase

friday night Test n Tune at the Local dragstrip would prove just how wrong you are.

stock 3 passes that are consistant then swap on that 10" air cleaner then run again, 3 passes that are consistant

whats the difference?

0.02 of a second? , that would be the weight of the fuel burnt.

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I'm Right

Where the hell have you been hiding bud!? Good to see yer' still kickin'! BTW, Bret's responses are exactly what I would have said............10" Pro-Flo (Edelbrock PN 1208), hell no to K&N, running a Purolator filter, will get the number later today as I'm headin' out to tinker with my nitor trucks in a few.

Doc

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"Doc"

If you'll pay for it I'll run the dynos dude.............

Doc

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"Doc"

nitro trucks, eh? What sort-- I just got my Nitro MT and TMaxx back out the other week...

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burntkat

It's been done and on high performance engines it yields about 15hp. On any other engine it yields about 5hp, less then anyone can tell by driving it.

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Todd Copeland

I am just gonna put my 2cents in...

It has been proven for years that a cold air intake will clearly outperform an open element once under hood temps rise above exterior temps. The problem with 90% of the factory air intakes, is that they are designed for looks and sound deadening FIRST, and flow second.

I fabricated a dual snorkel setup on my 'Burban and gained a handful of tenths in average MPG. Slightly noticeable gain in performance especially going down the freeway. I also had ALLOT better drivability for stop and go driving!

I always ran a 10inch open element filter with 2 4inch(or so)Fram elements stacked on top of each other. Sick of always having a filthy element after ANY off-road excursion and sick of replacing them every oil change(as was mentioned), I installed a closed element filter from a late '80's Chevy(tall element type) and routed the tubing to a fairly open area of the radiator support. I immediately felt a difference in performance. and lost track of how many miles were on the element with hardly any dirt. I also got 2-3 MPG better!

Just my 2cents...

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Shades

Megatech Gladiator 1/10 scale.

Doc

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"Doc"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I remember you saying, many times, that the stock airbox will flow way more air than a stock engine can use. In any case, the open air filter would only make a difference at WOT when the engine is really sucking air. How much time do you spend at WOT? H

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Hairy

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