Restoring a Rhino Liner to it's new look

I opened the link to Renews webpage and it appears from the data sheet that the active ingredient is Sodium Hydroxide (Lye, caustic soda), it can blind and or severely burn skin, it can produce volatile, combustible or explosive products of chemical reactions.

NIOSH Data card link;

What are the properties of the reaction products of Renews AC coil cleaner with the oxidized liner? Do you think it should be just washed off with a water hose onto the yard where kids, dogs and cats walk crawl and roll around?

Just try entering Sodium Hydroxide in a Google search to see how hazardous this stuff can be.

Spud

Sure, I would agree with you and the MSDS if the Sodium Hydroxide were used in its purest and undiluted form, but you're comparing apple to oranges when the product is severely diluted.

Here is an MSDS for water, which, if used improperly can cause severe bodily injury or death.

I wouldn't be scared and I did recommend its use. Of course I mentioned using at your own risk and take no responsibility for its use or misuse.

Probably the same produced by reacting with the oxidation on a condenser coil.

That's up to the individual user to decide, not me. In its diluted form it's no more dangerous than car wax or antifreeze. If a person isn't capable of properly using car wax or antifreeze they surely shouldn't be using any off the shelf product.

No need, I'm very familiar with its uses in various household and industrial products, including drain cleaner.

Geez, there will always be one out there in the world that has to piss on someone's parade. I'm sorry for trying to be helpful.

Rita

DO YOU sell this product or make money to advertise it ????

Absolutely not, I have been in this group for many years and have no desire to advertise, just a desire to help the group. This was put out for the professional people in this group that work on or restore trucks for a living. Also, the people that work on these vehicles, especially body and paint specialists have enough common sense and experience to handle this product since it is far less toxic or dangerous than any of the painting supplies they currently use.

If you are looking to purchase this chemical I would inquire with your local HVAC contractor or HVAC supply chain. Good luck.

Rita

Sheesh, until a few yrs ago when everyone began worrying abt everything normal in life, lye was sold full-strength for pennies in cans to clean drains & other gn'l uses, and housewives made it from ashes for centuries. I find it funny that no one complains about pumping present-day gasoline, which typically has a number of carcinogens & off-spec aromatics, but worries about ordinary household chemicals.

WHY don't you STFU?

Do you think we're all children?

We wouldn't be cleaning condensers, nor would most of us be "Professional Automotive Techs" in this group, helping others, in this group.

So please, let us use our own discretion when someone posts a good idea?

Otherwise I'd have to charge my customers $199.00 to do it with the process Speedliner uses. So would you rather me charge that price, or maybe $65.00 to $85.00 with hazardous waste disposal fees?

Thank you for understanding now!

Refinish King

Thank you for your kind words. If you are ever in the neighborhood please stop by so that I can clean your Rhino and shove the nozzle up your ass to clean your nasty thoughts.

Rita

I wouldn't get too concerned about an asshole that needs protection from his stupidity. It is people like that we have asinine laws on the books so that "we don't hurt ourselves".

Anyway, if you test this on a small inconspicuous area of a Line-X or Speedliner and it works please let me know. Thanks again.

Rita

You people are really vicious SCUMBAGS!

Maybe you shouldn't wish something so harmful to others, bad karma comes back and bites you in the ass.

In your case, most likely two fat assed trailer park inhabitants, who have nothing better to do. Than wish evil things. On people who have reached a little better station in life than your beer swilling, puking. Then more beer swilling and physical abuse routine?

You must have drank this by mistake, because you keep it to clear out your trailer sewage lines, right?

So you know first hand what it can do to idiots, but we aren't all idiots.

So please, go to rehab, then get an education. Then you too can learn the safe handling of these chemicals as we pros do.

Thank you for trying to read this post, as I'm sure you're functionally illiterate also!

Refinish King

Even though their brains are up their asses:

I doubt that their collective brains are big enough for us mere mortals to even steam clean.

It would require a dual specializing surgeon: gastroentorologist/Neurosurgeon to find their colorectal peanut brains with a proctoscope, then flush them with Colytely.

A preparation made to remove stool from the G.I. Tract.

Refinish King

It should work:

They are all a urethane product, the only difference being that. Speedliner is catalyzed and sprayed cold, rather than warmed like Rhino or Line-x.

So that's the only difference between the physical products. Bur Speedliner has a much more demanding surface prep requirement than Rhino or Speed Liner.

Thanks for that idea though.

And to the idiots with malice in mind, No restorations for you!

Refinish King

"Professional

While you may not be one, there is no shortage of idiots around. Never underestimate the ability of idiots to be themselves, ya know what they say about making something idiot proof.

I see no problem with warning people of the dangers of using lye. As a plumber in a former life I went on plenty of clogged drain calls where the homeowner had dumped a gallon or so of Drano in the sink in a futile attempt to clear a drain. Along comes the "pro" who has to deal with the mess. Yes we knew the dangers and how to take appropriate measures to avoid injury, still didn't make it any more pleasant. It does clean off the drain snake pretty well though.

DJ

I always warned the plumber if there was a chemical poured in the drain!

I never poured chemicals in the drain, but landlords did.

But, I know if you make something idiot proof, they'll just make a better idiot.

These people wished malice on others, and that's just pain wrong!

I can see a pleasant warning, but to wish malice, is something like wishing someone a broken leg, for making a better ski binding.

Thank you for your years of service, for snaking where this man would in no way go!

LOL

Refinish King

PS My number two was your bread and butter?