2000 Dodge Neon

If they're trying to keep it a secret, they're doing a lousy job. The info's right in the Factory Service Manual, which is easily available for public purchase.

...You did look in the manual, right?

DS

There was a time when the little blow up diagrams on computer showed parts in virtual position..

He tells it like it is, it's right in section 8J

I'll bet, that if you had a brother in the parts department, he could get a look at the FSM, or even let you see it, OR>>>>>>>>>>

perhaps EVEN get a photocopy of the relevant material! Wow, what a concept!

-- snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com In the words of the IMMORTAL USED CAR DEALER: THERE IS AN ASS FOR EVERY SEAT!

IIRC, it's in the block of fuses under the hood.

well DS, Personaly , I Don't think that a person should have to purchase an Owners manual to replace a Turn Signal relay. Where will it End? Will we someday need To Purchase a manual to tell us where to put Oil in at ? or How to replace a turn signal BULB ?, Or To tell us when we don't have enough tread left on our tires?... AND, Wouldn't / Shouldn't a multi million Dollar Parts dept be able to look such Basic Info up on a Screen of some kind and pass it along to the Consumer who has gone out of his way to purchase genuine Mopar Parts. .. Ohhh Lets see ..LIKE, AN OWNERS MANUAL ON THE COMPUTER .... In the Dept that would most get requests for such info ... Naaaaaaaaa.. Lets just all get dumber, and dumber and let Corporations Give us the Mushroom treatment. Keep us in the dark, and cover us with BullShit..

And further more .. It's going to be a OOhhh Doughnuts!

I do intricate, technical stuff every day. I long ago learned I don't have the right to expect to instantly understand everything new I encounter, that sometimes you have to RTFM. The same idea applies here. If you're going to work on your own car, you should expect to have to invest some time, effort, and yes, a few bucks in order to be able to do it right. There's nothing wrong with that, it is the way the world works.

--Geoff

The Owner Manual is supplied with the car when it's new. The irresponsibility of the former owners caused yours to be lost. Quit carping about it.

A brand new owners manual for your car, part# 81-026-0039 cost only $6

Why in tarnation should Chrysler waste the money to put an owners manual on the computer when every car they sell already has one in the glove box?

The manuals that people have been telling you to get are factory service manuals. They aren't the same thing as an owners manual. If your going to rant at least get what your ranting about right.

Have you ever considered that a dealership parts department isn't the best place to get information about fixing your car? I've bought plenty of dealer-only parts and most parts counter people I've talked to know a lot about the parts themselves, but don't seem to know alot about fixing cars. I would guess if they did, they would be in the service area actually fixing the cars rather than behind the parts counter.

Ted

Naaaaaaaaa..

You're absolutely right, because the information required is not in the owner's manual. It's in the factory service manual. Different book entirely.

Be advised, nobody gives much a f*ck whether you think you should or shouldn't have to purchase this or that book to do this or that service work. Can't figure it out? Go get the book, pay someone else to do the work or live with the fault out of stubbornness. Your choice.

Not their job. Check your "Shift" key, by the way -- it seems to be inserting random uppercase letters into your posts.

Gee, whiz Ted, they could embed it in the ROM for that webserver you want in each vehicle, you know, the one you want an RJ45 connection for!

(actually, not a bad idea.)

--Geoff

Actually, I think that GM has figured out how to solve that one. They just dick the owners $35 a month to have some minimum-wager in a call center in Poontang read the instructions in the vehicle's owners manual over the phone. They call it the OnStar system. ;-)

My guess is that 3/4 of the drivers in cars today wouldn't know the difference between an RJ45 port and their girlfriend's snatch.

Ted

Careful now, you're calling Troy, MI Poontang (as if!)

--Geoff