Chrysler's latest scam

Not to mention the state. They're racking up! Unlike the dealer, the state doesn't have anything to lose in the deal. It's actually a pretty good deal except for the tax implications.

They gotta make all that money back that the 2.7 V-6 cost them....POS..

Um - wouldn't you get a refund on the tax? Isin't that how it normally works when you return something?

As for the registration, wouldn't you end up with a new set of plates (good for what - a year?) that you could use on another car?

MoPar Man wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@Man.com:

I'm wondering how this works...in New York, you don't get your title for six weeks from date you pick up your car (plus/minus a few days...it's pretty consistent). How do you transfer title back to dealer with no title?!?

MoPar Man wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@Man.com:

With regard to the tax, in New York, you only get that back if you win a lemon law case. You don't get it back if the manufacturer agrees to back through some arbitration process (such as BBB Auto Line). The state gets to keep their piece...

I would not call it a scam since everything is in writing I would consider it alternate sales revenue.

Coasty

The car would then have to be sold as a used car after that, or (?)

Or a lease car..

Doesn't surpise me. I can't see where they would be willing to take the car back, and absorb all the costs from the failed sale. My friend sold a car back based on the outcome of an arbitration settlement. He had to pay .50 per mile, and got no refund for the license fees.

That is why the *fine print* is just that. If it is a radio ad, the annoucer will quickly spew out all the exclusions and limitations during the last few seconds of the advertisment.

-KM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The fine print in the TV ad lasts for less than 3 seconds on screen, and if you can read it, you're Evelyn Wood's star pupil in rapid reading. As for the flyer from the Chrysler dealer, the print is so small that it's half the size of phone book print, and even printed on a contrasting background, so you REALLY have to want to read it. But the upshot is that you can't "SIMPLY return the car to the dealer". I can imagine anyone trying to return the car will turn the greatest shade of purple when they find out that they're on the hook for all the charges....least of which is the 5% of the MSRP of the car (not even of the actual selling price but of the MSRP!)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sure, it's in writing, and so are the reams of boilerplate in most contracts, which nobody reads either. When you deal with someone where thousands of dollars are transferred in exchange for an article of merchandise, there is (or at least should be) and element of trust between the parties. In this case, it's almost fraudulent, I think, unless the saleperson brings up the conditions under which the offer is made, and after bringing each of the conditions to the table, asks the customer to initial EACH of the conditions examined. Do you think any of this would ever be done in a showroom's sales office? Not unless there really is an easter bunny and a tooth fairy and ......

This campaign really needs to be tipped to a consumer-oriented state's Attorney General who will decide if it is merely misleading advertising, or worse.

Yeah, but by the time the guvmint's law enforcers "spring into action" the ad campaign is ancient history. I'd love to see it happen though. I think it goes way beyong "misleading" and it borders on outright fraud. If you bought a $30K Chrysler with the understanding that you could pitch it back at the dealer if you didn't like it within 30 days (as implied by the ad) and found that you'd have to kick in FIVE THOUSAND BUCKS to assuage your dissatisfaction, I could see some folks going postal over it. You could drive a rental for a couple of days for likely less than $100, to see whether the car was for you, which would be 2 percent of what your misadventure would cost if you bought the damn thing!

And if you don't read all that fine print and boilerplate, you're a fool and you have nothing to complain about.

I would call it a big embarrassing scam. Another way to turn off customers.

I still say it's a pretty decent deal if it wasn't for the taxes.

Paying $1500 for trying a vehicle that you are supposed to be able to "simply return to the dealer" is not a "pretty decent deal".

When you buy a TV, refrigerator, chair, etc, and return it, you get everything refunded - including the tax. Why would this deal be any different?

Why do you say that the gov't keeps the tax if you buy a car and then return it?

Even if you have to pay the cost to register and plate the car, the plate is still yours after you return the car, and you'd be able to put it on another car (the one you buy and end up keeping).