Ford takes a dive, DC will be #2 soon

So true. Even the inferior Mercedes cruise control has crept into recent Chrysler vehicles.

Interesting thought. So the buyers feel they are "foreign" and OK?

However recent news shows Chrysler taking a financial hit this year due to their large gas eating vehicles. Even the 300 line is being partially shut down this fall.

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The 300 is suffering from two major problems...tiny cabin space and adoption by "ghettoids" as a ghetto ride, both of which are causing high depreciation and are slowing sales. Both aren't doing DC any good at all, people who want 5 passenger room look at the Ford 500, although sales of that aren't that good at all.

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DeserTBoB

Ford's desperate to find a buyer for Jag and the others...they are bleeding red ink worse than US operations.

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DeserTBoB

quite literally. i think the last Ford had to step down recently? well, he's still on board. i was relieved to hear him admit that he has to go. nice guy but not the sharpest pencil in the box.

what are the chances that we will be able to teach calculus to our auto workers? just because. i remember reading how the you know who could do calculus and our boys and girls could barely do remedial math. but i digress in this series.

i know. i just bought a casio that does integrals for $15. come to think of it i probably have close to 10 calculus books and still can't remember partial derivatives. damn. any of you remember that? i have taken my brain to the limit and left it there :)

"Ford Motor Co. fell 16 cents to $7.66 after the company said it will pay board member John Bond $25,000 a day to be a consultant to Chairman William Clay Ford Jr. as the auto maker goes through a massive restructuring. Bond's total fees under the consulting deal are capped at $262,500 every 12 months, according to a Ford filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission."

so Chairman Ford is still on board but is getting help to the tune of $25,000 a day.

gee golly gum drops, soon we will be into real money

that stock price is kind of low for a big powerful company. that's scary.

no wonder the people in michigan are leaving.

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treeline12345

"Billy Boy" Ford, being the good family rat that he is, decided to bail out when it looked like the S.S. Ford would capsize with him at the con. "Not the sharpest pencil in the box" would easiy describe the entire Ford family going all the way back to Henry, who just happened to have the right, simple idea, at the right time in history.

Hell, I have enough trouble remembering binomial surds!

Now you've reached the crux of the problem...the Ford family, as reinforced by the drunken/drug induced excesses of King Henry II, think they're running a private fiefdom, not a public corporation.

The Republican Party also appears to be leaving Michigan. Even the UP wants them out!

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DeserTBoB

Henry Ford was stupid? Give us some more words of wisdom. We're all ears. I'll bet you're a ton of fun at dinner parties.

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Robbie and Laura Reynolds

.....Blah blah blah blah.....

Yeah, yeah, we all know that you are quite adept at regurgitating standard reference materials. I was just trying to point out how childish it is to call people stupid just because they don't agree with you.

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Robbie and Laura Reynolds

window...

ugly pimp car...

Not a desirable used car...

Just as heavy, but FWD...

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Spam Begone

No, I call people stupid because they're stupid. When the shoe fits....

By the way, I don't "regurgitate standard reference materials." I'd put my research abilities up against yours anywhere, anyday, for any amount of money you probably don't have. And no, "wikipedia" is NOT a source authority for anyone but...stupid people!

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DeserTBoB

It's also one of the most stolen cars in the US at this time, along with Escalades, Benzes and other ghetto favorites, as well as the vanilla and oft-wrecked Camrys...and...no surprise....Chrysler minivans. It would appear that ghettoids and bubble brained soccer moms are both pretty bad drivers as groups, giving the chop shops lots of business. According to the California Highway Patrol, many stolen Chrysler minivans wind up in Mexico, loaded to the gunnels with bambinos from a people who don't know how birth control works.

I drove a 500. It's a slug. A nice slug, but to haul 5 people around, my archiac M-body can run (and handle...cop brakes, cop tires, cop suspension) rings around it and beat its EPA mileage estimate on the road, even with a 318 and RWD! Only thing the 500 does better is ride, and I doubt it could do that when loaded. The 500 also handles worse than did my FWD Cadillac Sedan de Ville, which was at least a half ton heavier!

The 300M with hemi is now one of the most expensive new cars to insure in the country. I also drove one of those, and although it does everything better than a Ford 500 (it'd better, for that price!) and has tittilating (too much so) accelleration, seating for four is claustrophobic and outward vision is horrid. Look for DC to "deghettoize" the 300 in probably '08 to try to boost sales to its target buyers again. One thing both GM and DC have learned...if you market a vehicle to the ghetto thugs, everyone else drops it like a hot rock. Ford has already learned from their miscues, and has ordered dealers to remove ANY 20" or 22" dealer installed rims on the

500s. Not that this will help...one of the 500's problems is that it looks like an overinflated Focus. Primary buyers of 500s so far have been middle aged divorced women according to JD Power, which was exactly Ford's target group, but they're still not buying in great numbers. Meanwhile, the Focus has almost fallen off the map on sales after its clumsy '06 restyle.
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DeserTBoB

OK, not only were Henry Ford, Thomas Edison and a lot of other people stupid, but now I don't know how to find information in a book, and I probably don't have money. Your powers of deduction are awe inspiring.

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Robbie and Laura Reynolds

that's a good one- you noticed how DeserTBob reads and types in the text from a book, and then posts it- it's quite obvious he's a poser and wannabee hiding a very dumb self in reality- if you ask certain specific questions that can't be found on a website or book, he just won't answer. I asked him how many oil galley plugs in a Pontiac V-8, he could only come up with the front 2 plugs- because that's all that is posted about on the net. See ? He didn't know there were 5 plugs or where they were, because he never worked on a Pontiac.

DeserTBob's real self comes out once in a while- he made a post saying a certain product was "worser" not too long ago- as we all know, "worser" is not even a word, and also cannot be considered a "typo"- it's a grade school grammatical error ! If you can find "worser" in a dictionary, it will say a redundant form of "worse" considered a vulgarism, i.e. only a dumb-ass would use the term.

And he claims he has a 4-year degree from UCLA- good thing that's a free college- otherwise he'd deserve a refund ! Ask him what his major was in, he has yet to answer that question.

How can a guy who uses the word "worser", point fingers at achievers/inventors like Henry Ford (auto mass production expert and multi-billionaire) and Thomas Edison (inventor of light bulb, phonograph, vacuum tube, gas lighting, etc.) ??

See DeserTBob's "worser" quote here:

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ps- Ford was so "dumb", he MADE the pistons, crankshaft, and rods for his first engine, from scratch in his back yard shop. Edison was so "dumb", that he invented that light that's on in your computer room, as you're reading this on this website.

What we have in DeserTBob is someone who his patently ANTI-AMERICAN. He was too lazy and stupid to get a piece of the American dream, so he hates the entire system.

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duty-honor-country

More projection from our mentally ill chew toy, Charlie Nudo.

I do not "type from a book," that's YOUR bag, Noodles.

I haven't worked on a Pontiac V8 in over 30 years. I just remembered the two behind the timing sprocket...as they'd leak all the time and make a mess.

What an idiot. It was in a joking context..."coulda been worser...shoulda been gooder."

Hey, moron...that's NOT a "grammatical error," and if it was any error at all, it'd be a lexicographical error...but you can't even spell nor understand that.

Exactly. When writing for idiots like you, vulgarism is the only thing that captures your attention...that, and a baseball bat to the skull.

NONE of the UC campuses are "free"...never have been. And UCLA is considered one of the top universities in the country, but you wouldn't know that, either...you barely made it through high school, as the record shows.

Any idiots can "make" parts. It takes an engineer and brain to make them work properly.

No, I have none of Edison's lamp invetions in my den. I have Steinmetz' flourescent tubes, as I like to conserve power.

More projection from a paranoid delusional psychotic. Projection is one of their most oft-used defense mechanisms. Anyone with even a semester of psych will recognize this immediately.

Noodles, I've crushed you, and you're flailing and flopping around like a landed fish. At least have enough dignity to throw your computer in the lake...or shoot yourself...or something constructive.

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DeserTBoB

I'm sure that Mr. Putney, by now, knows that with friends like Charlie Nudo, one hasn't much need for enemies!

Don't worry, Noodles...your SSI check will be coming after the first, and you can get some more meds. Oh, and don't let your getting booted out of rec.guns bother you so much! You're a troll, and that's what happens to trolls like you. Suck it up!

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DeserTBoB

nice SHOT, Bill...that's gonna leave a scar !

on the Chrysler/Caddy wannabee that really drives a ' 78 Honda shitbox

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elkhound68

What's a "full size truck"?

One of these?

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Didn't know GM made any of them.

Europe's biggest truck maker is Mercedes-Benz. Would not surprise me if they were the global number one if one took their other brands into account in the USA.

Furthermore, I doubt GM is significant in India (though I would be glad to be stood corrected).

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling

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Dori A Schmetterling

When including DC's Dodge line, Daimler Chrysler is the world's biggest builder of trucks in the light and medium duty catagories.

Sales in India, according to Automotive News, are in the HUNDREDS of units. So much for Nudo's "GM is #1!"

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APRIL 28, 2006 Autos By Charles Dubow Best Pickups 2006 Gas prices may slow sales but consumers have never had better trucks to buy

What's clear is that, at least as far as the auto makers go, there's no dilemma here. As long as they can make money selling big trucks, they will continue to build them. In fact, for the first quarter of 2006, Ford and GM sold far more big trucks than they did small trucks. The Ford F-150 series, still the best-selling truck in the U.S., notched a healthy 5.5% increase, the third consecutive month of gains according to the company (see BW Online, 4/19/06, "America's Favorite Pickup").

What's interesting to note is that the number of big pickups sold in the first quarter (538,262) dwarfed the number of small trucks (140,527), but that in the latter category, the Japanese were dominant, selling nearly twice as many small trucks as Ford and GM combined. In fact, while Toyota and Nissan have both developed a large truck entrant, Honda has not. Nor have they come out with a range of models and variations, such as the $52,710 Dodge Ram SRT 10 or the $37,300 Ford F-150 King Ranch, seeming to understand that their best chance of success lies in remaining small and waiting for the big trucks to go extinct.

Pickup Sales: First Quarter 2006Company Q1 2006 Sales Ford Motor 225,777 General Motors 215,242 DaimlerChrysler 109,394 Toyota Motor 73,632 Nissan 41,101 Honda Motor 13,643

Source: Automotive News

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duty-honor-country

Motor Trend's truck of the year is a HONDA!

Charlie equates quality with quantity. He picks a McDonalds hamburger over a nice grilled steak because McDonalds sold 6 billion burgers so they must be the best!

How's that beat up Saturn Wagon running?

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CAINE

ROFL! He's mutating!

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DeserTBoB

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