Mobil1 oil filter?

Changed to Mobil 1, and they keep telling me to use a "Mobil 1 filter." Is this Really a special filter designed for synthetics OR is it just a Branded oil filter? - RM

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Rick Merrill
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Just advertising.It's probably no better than a Purolator PureOne filter, but about twice as expensive and the PureOne. (Based on PureOne PL14670 @ $5 vs Mobbil 1M1-204 @ $10.) A MotorCraft equivelent runs around $4, and has PureOne internals.

The have been numerous reports of the Mobil 1 filters failing at the backplate to can crimp.

Wix also makes a very good filter. It is also rebranded as a NAPA Gold and STP.

Stay away from the Chrysler Servere Duty, Quaker State, Fram and Penzoil.

Rick Merrill wrote:

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Mike Behnke

I can see the last three warnings, and here come the oil filter wars again, but what problem have you found with Chrysler 53020311 Severe Duty? They work well for me and do not have the cheesy/flimsy construction and materials of Fram etc.

DS

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Daniel J. Stern

The Mopar Severe Duty filters that were were built by Wix, are now looking to be built by Fram, based on comparisons in the US and Canada.

See "Important Update" secti> >

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Mike Behnke

Interesting -- I last bought a 53020311 Severe Duty filter one month ago here in Ontario. Bought two, actually. One went on the bench and got cut up and scrutinized. It appears to be the same Dana (Wix) filter I've always gotten under this part number.

THe other one went on my truck.

DS

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Daniel J. Stern

The minimopar site is gone, but here's another cut-apart of the 53020311:

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Interesting: This is NOT the same guts as the 53020311 I cut apart a month ago. I still have it around here somewhere, I'll check the date code. It's entirely possible I got an "old stock" unit from when Dana/Wix made it, or else Chrysler buys them from more than one source. Either way, I agree with you -- it seems this filter can no longer reliably be assumed to be good, therefore it does belong on the "don't use" list.

DS

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Daniel J. Stern

Possibly "old" stock?

Try the Wix 51452. Same filter, different pa> >

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Mike Behnke

Who are "they?" :-)

The Mobil 1 filter isn't entirely a scam. Its a very, very good filter and is particularly recommended in engines with high-volume/high-pressure oil pumps because it has a thicker can and baseplate material that is able to withstand higher pressures. Sometimes even the M1 filter will fail in those applications (base crimp to can, from what I've read) but its far less likely to fail than filters with thin walls and thin baseplates, which just tend to blow completely off the mounting base (the threads in the thin baseplate fail).

I use M1 filters on my '69 440 which easily devlops 80 PSI at cold idle. All the other cars get Wix or Purolator Pure One filters. All the cars get Mobil 1 oil. The filter media is not particularly better in the Mobil 1 filter, and in fact the Pure One probably has the best filter material.

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Steve

Guys at the Mobil station :-)

Thanks for the observations. - RM

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Rick Merrill

Perhaps Chrysler is trying to "go-on-the-cheap" to stem the financial blood-letting they've experienced lately. The service guy told me yesterday that the dealer shop has replaced more new alternators in recent models than has been replaced in years prior...new source for alternators also, perhaps? Apparently Chrysler alternators historically are very reliable...

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James C. Reeves

I'm not sure about design, but any quality oil filter will work with Mobil 1.

Matt

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Matthew S. Whiting

Really old stock -- I'd heard they'd switched to Fram years ago. Maybe it is just multiple sources...

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Joe Pfeiffer

I believe that dealer replacement parts have always been contracted out to the low bidder over the years. That's one reason I never buy expendables like filters at the dealer, and never have done so.

Back when Chrysler built their own alternators, they were extremely reliable. Since the 80s, though, they've been installing Nippondenso and Bosch alternators, same as you find in Toyotas and Volkswagens among countless others. Those are hit-and-miss depending on the particular alternator model. The Nippondensos have a characteristic failure (the pin that grounds the rectifier bank to the case is too small and will fail if the connection begins to loosen or corrode) but otherwise hold up EXTREMELY well. Not sure about the Bosches, but I've generally had rotten luck with everything labelled "Bosch" except my coffee maker :-)

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Steve

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