The Crossfire is just slightly out of my budget, but I would love to drive one and try it out.
Just wondering why, on this group, there isn't more traffic on this car? (The styling is going to be with us for a while, it seems, which to me is a good sign!)
-FPtM
Some people think it is ugly. It appears that the Pacifica may be the next Edsel. Hopefully the Crossfire does better.
The auto magazines I have read hasn't said anything about the Crossfire being ugly. They like the styling. The negatives, according to them, are that they used to much plastic in the interior, which makes it look cheap, and seating is not comfortable. As far as driving experience, they liked it.
Uncomfortable seating will kill the car but I don't see much to the plastic issue. The 300M is described as having a cheap interior and my other car, an Avalon is supposed to have an almost Lexus quality interior according to reviews but I don't see much difference except for the power window and door switches. The Avalon's are much nicer and like the ones in the Pacifica though the door panel switches for the seat in the Pacifica I drove last were loose.
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Because this is a CHRYSLER discussion group and the Crossdresser is a thinly disguised Mercedes? And fugly to boot?
Well, the crossdresser IS foriegn. You also just described the Audi TT and NeuBeetle.:-)
Nah, it's been dethroned by the Honda Elephant.
Nah, nah, fugly is the Pontiac Aztec..a thinly disguised whirlpool refrigerator.
I'm no car designer or art major but I can't get too excited over the Crossfire styling. For the most part it works for me but the extra wide natural finished trim around the windshield and the shape of the back of the vehicle don't look quite right somehow. A little less of the beachball look on the tail, maybe a bit broader and a hint of a ducktail spoiler like on the LH cars?
Too much like that Audi thing.
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:31:43 GMT, "chris" puked:
Don't forget under powered.
-- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Personally, I think the Pacifica is OK looking, but it is absolutely substandard when it comes to power vs weight. The crossfire is indeed butt ugly and definitely nothing to write home about in terms of performance either.
It's too bad that Chrysler can't come up with a decent sedan with AWD. I finally got tired of waiting (speaking of Audi) and bought an A4 quattro to replace my 300M. Much better driving car, AWD, better mileage, faster, and seems more sturdily built. The downside is that it's smaller. I suspect there are a lot of folks out there who want an AWD vehicle without buying a
15mpg pig of an SUV. Those folks currently have nowhere to go, but to Volkswagen/Audi/Subaru. A shame.Anyone want to buy a low mileage '99 300M? 8-)
Cheers,
C
I kept my first and never again VW product 3 months. Hope you have better luck. Mine was brand new and pure junk.
indeed butt
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Mercedes (C240, C320, E320, E500, S430, S500), BMW (325xi, 330xi), Volvo (S60), Jaguar (X-Type), Infiniti (G35).
As opposed to the Chrysler management from 1971-1999, which re-skinned old Mitsubishi, Sunbeam, and Renault platforms and called them Chryslers?
A review in the UK liked the styling of the Crossfire but was unsure if it would hack it against the Merc SLK here. (The badge, the badge.)
Maybe the Crossfire will get a retractable roof one day?
Haven't seen one for real yet -- they'll stay a rarity in Europe, probably -- but in the picture it looked pretty good to me.
It is interesting that the Crossfire attracts a particular venom from certain quarters in this ng (Crossdresser being a polite example). I wonder if it's because it was conceived by FOREIGNERS... (Same could apply to the Pacifica, which has also attracted its share of criticism, thoughof a different sort.)
DAS
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I wouldn't let go of it just yet... A co-worker bought a Quattro. He gets to drive it occasionally (when it escapes from the dealer service dept.) but usually not everything is working right.
I've always respected European engineering, be it in the form of Jaguar, Mercedes, Lamborghini, or BMW. What I don't like is the dilution of Chrysler engineering with Mercedes, especially when it is just re-skinning an old Benz platform and calling it a new Chrysler.
This is EXACTLY the kind of crap that many of us long-time Chrysler aficianados expected of the "merger of equals" lie that was pushed on us.
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