Pacifica vs Cadillac SRX

The SRX is built from the CTS, which is made in the US (the Catera was the rebadged Opel). But all new Cadillacs are butt-ugly -- SRX, XLR, CTS.

Yeah, but is the drivetrain in the Cadillac a *real* Cadillac drivetrain with a Northstar engine, or is it the same Opel-derived piece of excrement they've been peddling in the CTS for a few years? Cadillac's stylists should be shot, too. How can the same car company that produced the beautifully understated Seville STS in recent years degenerate to the Tonka-toy styling of the CTS and SRX.

Sorry, I'll take the Pacifica any day, even if it is a bit underpowered. At least I know it'll be RELIABLE power- the 3.5 is proven.

Like the Opel Sigma?

'Butt'-ugly is right...

Sorry, because of frames I can't link directly to the photos, but in left sidebar is a drop-down menu headed "Opel Automobile". Then Galerie/Fotos.

I had one on rental a few months ago in Germany. Actually it was quite nice inside, butI couldn't get to grips with the shape. Reminiscent of the 'eccentric' Renault Vel Satis.

DAS

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The Catera was a re-badged Opel, but (at least up until this year) the CTS used an Opel *engine* and not a Cadillac/Northstar design. Check on rec.autos.tech for a few rants about what a piece of junk it is.

They still sell the Seville, but I'm sure it's days are numbered.

Don't think so. As the owner of a Pacifica I'll take it anyday over an upscale Chevrolet SUV.

He never mentioned the Escalade. But don't let facts bother you... :-)

I too prefer the Pacifica over the Caddy, but the Caddy in question is NOT a re-badged Chevy suv

Neither did I.

and followed it with:

Maybe you should get the facts correct...;-)

and finished it with:

Obviously you have not seen the Equinox. Why don't you compare the SRX and the Equinox? True, the SRX is a Sigma and the Equinox is a Theta, but to me, at least, the SRX only looks like a stretched version of the Equinox. Of course my conclusions are based only on photographs. Perhaps after I have seen them in person I will have a different opinion.

The Equinox is a rebadged Saturn VUE. The SRX is built off the CTS. They are not related.

If you're going to make THAT comparison, then the Equinox is more nearly a re-badged Cadillac. It never existed as a Chervrolet prior to the SRX.

You, TOO, ignored my complete post wherein I stated the SRX is a Sigma and the Equinox is a Theta. But, of course, you don't bother with that. My point was that, to the casual observer (which the majority of the motoring public IS), they will look related.The general public will not gave a rats a** as to the platform, nor do I. Got it??? Good!!!

Whatever!!!!!????? They were developed together and the SRX was introduced first, but I still hold my opinion and I will continue to hold that opinion. If you are going to quote and repsond read the WHOLE statement (remember, I followed those two sentences with explanations which, of course, you ignored) and don't try to twist things by posting out of context to suit your whims.

Like saying the Intrepid and the Neon were developed around the same time. Non sequitir.

You know something, Lloyd???? If someone posted "Jesus Saves", you would respond "So does Christ" just to argue!!!!

Go back and read my COMPLETE response and follow-up posting wherein I stated my opinion was from the photos I have seen and couild change when I see them in person. From the photos they look similar and given how GM, Ford and Chrysler have traditionally shared platforms, etc., in developing vehicles it is MY OPINION that many will think the same on these, so your response quoted above means nothing. But, of course, in your isolated world of education where you have no real clue as to what goes on in the real world, you think it does.

Exactly. So it is absolutely NOT a "Rebadged Chevy SUV" by any definition.

And I'll stick to fact.

So, if you are going to stick to fact, STICK TO FACT! My original quote:

"Don't think so. As the owner of a Pacifica I'll take it anyday over an upscale Chevrolet SUV." I don't see re-badged at all in there, and in further posts I gave my impression as to what I felt when I saw the pictures and I reserved the right to change my opinion after I see both vehicles in person. But, of course, you always only quote out of context and edit what you post to.

I find it amazing that in a Chrysler group you are defending/defining a Cadillac and an Equinox, a Sigma and a Theta. I gave up on GM a long, long time ago and no matter what you post, whether fact or not, I will stick to my opinion. Got it Stevie-boy??? Good!!!! Now let's see if you respond as I think you will. C'mon, Stevie-boy, don't let me, or the group, down.

Well, dish it out then. If it's got issues, we're dying to know what they are, and you're one of the guys in the best position to tell us.

Give us some examples of how the FSM is wrong, too.

--Geoff