This is a new car?????

Went down to the local Chrysler dealer to look at a Jeep Liberty. It had a lot of options, listed for around $29 K. With the employees price and other incentitives the price went down to about $23 K. The vehicle was a "demonstrator" and had 6,400 miles on it. I inquired as to where is the money taken off because the vehicle is a used car? You ready for this? They told me that since the car was never titled, it is technically a new vehicle and is being sold as one.

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tomkanpa
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That is common. Technically it is new.

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Art

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3=2E LORETTA =A0 Sep 17, 7:42=A0pm =A0 =A0 show options Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.chrysler From: "LORETTA" - Find messages by this author Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:42:42 GMT Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 7:42=A0pm Subject: Re: This is a new car????? Reply |Reply to Author| Forward| Print| Individual Message| Show original| Report Abuse

They will extend the warranty on it for what miles, that is on it, true

since it has never been titled, it is considered new.

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OK, but how does that effect non warranted items? How can they take

6400 miles of wear and tear off of the tires, the brake pads, etc.??
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tomkanpa

The dealer is feeding you a line. Yes, they will extend the warranty. But the long and short of it is that if you can buy a brand new Jeep Liberty from them for the same price (with incentives) that has 3-5 miles on it vs this 6400 miles vehicle, for the same price, then they are NOT going to get full sticker price on this vehicle unless they come across a complete moron.

You didn't say if this is a year 2004 Jeep or a year 2005. If it's a year

2005 then from the dealers point of view, they don't have much incentive right now to drop the price. The dealer is going to be selling 2005 models for at least another year. During that time they will of course need a 2005 to demo. So if they sell this to you they are just going to replace it with another Liberty that is going to accumulate another 10,000 miles of "demo" over the next year. They might as well keep this one.

Now, if this is a year 2004 model then you have some leverage because they obviously want to get rid of it. In that case you start haggling just as you would for a used car. Sure technically this might be a new vehicle but it's last years model with

6400 miles on it, they aren't going to get full sticker. And they know that. They just don't know if you know it and they are going to assume you don't until you say "yah right, now quit joking around and let's start discussing some realistic pricing"

Ted

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tim bur

Wrong! Warranty starts for a customer when the vehicle is first reported to Chrysler. That is why there is a field for mileage, when a dealer enters sales detail. Also, it is legally a New vehicle if it has not been registered. However, to circumvent this, it is only allowed to have so many miles as a demonstrator, before it has to be registered, and become a used vehicle. It depends on what State, or Province for the mileage of a demonstrator.

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David

GENERALLY, if the "demo" has only been run on dealer plates, it is still sold as a new vehicle. If it has been a "company car" - ie plated for personal use of a salesman or other dealer staff, it is sold as a "demo" and is technically a used car. Here in Ontario, with 6400 miles (over 10,000Km) it would most likely have been a plated vehicle and be sold as a demo. In many areas, even salesman's demos are run on plates issued to the dealership - not specified or legally attached to any particular vehicle - so a vehicle COULD have significant mileage and still be unregistered, and therefor "new".

My Dad mought a "demo" from a local AMC dealer and had a few problems that proved the car had significantly more mileage than the dealer was admitting to. Ends up it was a "fleet" car from Budget Rent-A-Car.

Some serious brown stuff hit the fan in Kitchener that day - and the dealer lost his franchise.

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nospam.clare.nce

They can't. That is where your negotiation skills come in...

Matt

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Matt Whiting

Select a different vehicle with less than 20 miles.

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Alex Rodriguez

You are a fool if you fall for that line. It is not new. It is used.

------------ Alex

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Alex Rodriguez

Consider it a demo and expect a significant price reduction from actual selling prices of a new vehicle. As has been said here shop around, you may equal their price on a NEW vehicle. When I hear crap during the negotiation phase I take my business elsewhere. Fortunately we have multiple dealers here. Just imagine what they would be like if you have a serious problem with the vehicle.

By the way do you like the location of the gasoline tank on the Liberty. I didn't on the one I saw when it came out. Just behind the rear bumper!

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