Transmission Question

I have a 1996 Plymouth Breeze it has about 75,000 , Sometimes when I start the car up in the morning, and also if I had to do a sudden quick stop... the car will act like it is in neutral, and just sit there to I give it gas, and then it will give a jerk, and then it will act normal.. it doesn't do this all the time just some of the time... as far as I know this car has had only one transmission fluid and filter change and that about 3 years ago... anybody have any Idea what the problem could be,,, thanks

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Since you did not say "And, by the way, I did check the fluid level, and it was good", I have to ask if you checked the fluid level.

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Bill Putney

Yes, that was the first thing I checked... the fluid level was fine...

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somewhere

Then perhaps it is ready for another fluid/filter change. Three years if you do average mileage (15k year) would be about right based on the schedule. Keep in mind it may be something else, but hopefully that is all it is. May want to have a *reliable* shop look at it. Be sure who ever does it uses the proper ATF+3 fluid.

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PC Medic

Sounds like a restricted filter/ pump losing prime-until u goose the throttle.

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BACKNCARDR

Nothing wrong with ATF+3 for that, but the "official" recommendation from Chrysler is ATF+4. But nothing besides those two, period.

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Bill Putney

How is the "official" recommendation ATF+4 in a 96 vehicle when ATF+4 was just recently developed?????

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PC Medic

Have you checked the fluid level? Sounds like low fluid.

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Steve

PC, Below is most of the text from Chrysler TSB #21-006-01 dated June 29,

2001. According to some dealers, the unofficial recommendation (i.e., not stated in a TSB) is even for ATF+4 in the pre-2000 minivans.

From the TSB: "MODELS:

1989 - 1995 (AA) Spirit/Acclaim/Lebaron Sedan 1989 - 2002 (AB) Ram Van/Wagon 1989 - 1993 (AC) Dynasty/New Yorker/New Yorker Salon 1989 - 1993 (AD) Ram Truck 1989 - 1994 (AG) Daytona 1989 (AH) Lancer/Lebaron GTS 1989 - 1995 (AJ) Lebaron Coupe/Lebaron Convertible 1989 - 1990 (AK) Aries/Reliant 1989 - 1990 (AL) Horizon/Omni 1989 (AM) Diplomat/Gran Fury/New Yorker Fifth Avenue 1989 - 2002 (AN) Dakota 1989 - 1994 (AP) Shadow/Sundance 1990 - 1991 (AQ) Maserati 1990 - 1993 (AY) Imperial/New Yorker Fifth Avenue 1994 - 2002 (BR/BE) Ram Truck 1998 - 2002 (DN) Durango 2002 (DR) Ram Truck 1995 - 2000 (FJ) Sebring/Avenger/Talon 2000 (GS) Chrysler Voyager (International Market) 1995 - 2000 (JA) Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze 2001 - 2002 (JR) Sebring Sedan & Convertible/Stratus Sedan 1996 - 2000 (JX) Sebring Convertible 2002 (KJ) Liberty 1993 - 2002 (LH) Concorde/Intrepid/Vision/LHS/New Yorker/300M 1989 - 1992 (MJ) Commanche 2000 (NS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager 1995 - 2002 (PL) Neon 2002 (PG) PT Cruiser (International Markets) 2001 - 2002 (PT) PT Cruiser 1997 - 2002 (PR) Prowler 2001 - 2002 (RG) Chrysler Voyager (International Markets) 2001 - 2002 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager 1997 - 2002 (TJ) Wrangler 2001 - 2002 (WG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets) 1999 - 2002 (WJ) Grand Cherokee 1989 - 1995 (YJ) Wrangler 1996 - 1998 (ZG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets) 1993 - 1998 (ZJ) Grand Cherokee/Grand Wagoneer

"NOTE :THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO ALL VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH CHRYSLER AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS EXCEPT 1999 AND EARLIER MINIVANS.

"DISCUSSION: "A new transmission fluid (ATF+4(R) - Type 9602) has been developed and is being used as factory fill for all vehicles with Chrysler automatic transmissions. Until now, vehicles originally filled with ATF+2 or ATF+3 were to be serviced with ATF+3. Effective immediately, it is recommended that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic transmissions except for 1999 and earlier minivans be serviced with ATF+4(R). ATF+3 should continue to be used for 1999 and earlier minivans because of the potential for torque converter shudder during break in. For all other applications the ATF+4(R) fluid offers significant benefits as outlined below.

"NOTE :ATF+4(R) MUST ALWAYS BE USED IN VEHICLES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY FILLED WITH ATF+4(R).

"NOTE :SERVICE INTERVALS DO NOT CHANGE. THE SERVICE INTERVAL CURRENTLY IN EFFECT FOR A GIVEN VEHICLE SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE FOLLOWED.

"NOTE :ATF+4(R) IS COMPATIBLE WITH ATF+3 AND CAN BE USED TO TOP OFF VEHICLES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE ATF+2 OR ATF+3. DO NOT USE ATF+2 OR ATF+3 TO TOP OFF VEHICLES THAT HAVE ATF+4(R) FLUID.

"BENEFITS ^ Better anti-wear properties ^ Improved rust/corrosion prevention ^ Controls oxidation ^ Eliminates deposits ^ Controls friction ^ Retains anti-foaming properties ^ Superior properties for low temperature operation

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Bill Putney

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Very useful information. I wonder why the "EXCEPT 1999 AND EARLIER MINIVANS" statement??? Seems with all its added benefits over the ATF+3 it would be beneficial to us Minivan owners as well.

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PC Medic

· · Grand Cherokee (International

Thanks!

Something about the torque converter lockup clutch having to properly wear in. But by now they are all pretty much worn in, which is why they say to use ATF+4 in those too now.

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

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Bill Putney

Chrysler, in a 1998 TSB, has recommended the use of ATF+4 to supercede ATF+3, just as it did for ATF+3 to supercede prior fluids under Specification 7173.

-GP

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Gene Poon

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