A/C refrigerant

Would anyone know what type of A/C refrigerant is used in a 1988 Citroen CXA? There is no info in the owner's manual or the repair manual--just says
see your local CXA dealer. Well CXA are dead as Dodos hereabouts. There is also mounted where the horns normally would be found an odd looking device with all kinds of German tin plaques attached to it and I cannot figure out what it is supposed to do. There is the remnant of some kind of cable hanging off of it.
Thank you for any help.
Gene Park
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Pop into an aircon place and ask them, any will know.
If it uses R12 (the old type) then the R134A pipes will not fit the charging connectors, as they have different ends.
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My '93 Peugeot had R12, so there is no doubt that your '88 Citroen will also be R12 Equally, you won't be able to get R12 now, but there used to be a conversion kit available to bring it up to date, also using some special oil developed in Australia. A good independent air con specialist will know. It was all explained to me when I got a local man out to mine, but as there was also a leak, it worked out cheaper to change the car.
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I spoke with a mechanic yesterday who works on foreign cars, i.e. Alfa Romeos etc. and he said that he could recharge the AC for $125 and if the car used R12 then it would be easier and that he preferred to use R12. Apparently there is available here in the US the older R12. He said that with R12 there would be no need to completely evacuate the system and just add the R12, however if it was the R13, then it would mean a complete evacuation of the system.
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I might have guessed that the anti pollution (R12 is an ozone pollutant) rules would not apply to the USA.
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Before you get your panties into a bunch, R12 has not been sold here since 1995. However, that doesn't mean that there isn't still some old cans of it running about. Most vehicles that used R12 that still have working A/C have been converted to R134A

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You are right, hardly any rules apply to the USA anymore, what with the Grand Bushwa and Gunslinger Cheney along with their Big Business Gangsters have turned the White House into a Shithouse. They want to keep the 12 million slave labor wetbacks so the don't have to pay real wages to real workers. Hell, if the crooks who hire the wetbacks were to pay an honest wage, then Americans could do the work that SOB says we won't do. Sorry for the diatribe but things are in a really sorry mess in this country what with all of the crooked politicians, some of which are so stupid they have been caught red handed.
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Thanks to everyone for your comments, but the question of the refrigerant is really moot now. The AC compressor is kaput and so far I have not been able to find a replacement or the $1200 that it would to buy it. As for the gadget in the wheel well, it did turn out to be the cruise control. I have contacted VDO Siemens and they were not able to help to find a replacement cable that connects from it to the carb. Oh, well at least the car runs like a charm.
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With serious air con faults it is often cheaper to buy another vehicle. The cable that connects the cruise control to the carb looked in the oicture to be a fairly standard bowden cable. If so, then I would have thought it would be easy enough to get one made up. Try your local motorcycle shop.
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Pictures? You can upload digital pictures free to <http://tinypic.com/ without 'registering', and then post the URL of the picture here.
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Gene: I've received your 5 emails. I can't identify the gizmo myself, but in case someone else in the newsgroup can I've uploaded your photos myself:
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxqpj.jpg (your DSCN1087.JPG)
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxtgo.jpg (your DSCN1088.JPG)
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxua0.jpg (your DSCN1089.JPG; you sent it twice)
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxwdx.jpg (your DSCN1091.JPG)
Nice-looking car :))
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FWIW, the "Geschwindigkeits-Regelgerat" translates as "speed regulator". But how would that tally with it being an electrical component? Was it an electrically operated speed limiter for the fuel system perhaps? Pity the rest of the label is obscured by the flash.
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I was reading < wrote:

I bet it's a Carburetor. In German: Geschwindigheids regelgert. (no hits on Google though)
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Gentlemen:
Here is what is on the plaque of the thingymajig.: VDO adolf schnidling AG 6000 Frankurt (spelling?) 90 Geschwindigheids regelgert VDO typ: Tennostat 83.601 Typzeichen KBA ABC 95.004 Nennsanung 12 volt.
May I assume that this some kind of cruise control?
There is also mounted where the horns normally would be found an odd looking device with all kinds of German tin plaques attached to it and I cannot figure out what it is supposed to do. There is the remnant of some kind of cable hanging off of it.
Thank you all for your responses. They all have been helpful
Gene

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Curses. I cannot spell
<DIV>&gt; Gentlemen:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Here is what is on the plaque of the thingymajig.:<BR>&gt; VDO adolf schnidling AG<BR>&gt; 6000 Frankurt (spelling?) 90<BR>&gt; <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><STRONG><U>Geschwindigkeit regelgert</U></STRONG></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN>&gt; VDO typ: Tennostat 83.601<BR>&gt; Typzeichen KBA ABC 95.004<BR>&gt; Nennsanung 12 volt.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; May I assume that this some kind of cruise control?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;There is&nbsp; also mounted where the horns normally would be found an odd <BR>&gt; looking device with all kinds of German tin plaques attached to it and I <BR>&gt; cannot figure out what it is supposed to do. There is&nbsp; the remnant of some <BR>&gt; kind of cable hanging off of it.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thank you&nbsp; all for your responses. They all have been helpful<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Gene<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Gene: I've received your 5 emails.&nbsp; I can't identify the gizmo<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; myself, but in case someone else in the newsgroup can I've uploaded<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; your photos myself:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <A href="
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxqpj.jpg ">
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxqpj.jpg </A> (your DSCN1087.JPG)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <A href="
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxtgo.jpg ">
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxtgo.jpg </A> (your DSCN1088.JPG)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <A href="
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxua0.jpg ">
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxua0.jpg </A> (your DSCN1089.JPG; you sent it<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; twice) <A href="
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxwdx.jpg ">
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gxwdx.jpg </A> (your DSCN1091.JPG)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Nice-looking car&nbsp; :))<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; [posted &amp; emailed]<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; I bet it's a Carburetor.<BR>&gt;&gt; In German: Geschwindigheids regelgert. (no hits on Google though)<BR>&gt;&gt; -- <BR>&gt;&gt; d:J0han; Certifiable me<BR>&gt;&gt; <A href="http://www.aacity.net ">http://www.aacity.net </A> Citroen Newsgroup<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Click -[ HERE ]- to continue..... <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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