I understand the original concept for the D Series was to have a flat
six air cooled engine. When the production car was actually made, was
there enough space widthwise for such an engine? If so, probably
putting a Corvair engine in would work.
The Corvair can be set up to run either way, but the stock rotation
direction is wrong, just like a Citroen. Just so no one raises this
Bret Ludwig ( firstname.lastname@example.org) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :
Two designs were trialled - one aircooled, one watercooled.
I doubt it.
I'd think a 911 engine would be MUCH easier to get hold of, as well as
being a far more realistic proposition (certainly this side of the pond).
The fact I've never seen or heard of such a D being built suggests there
just ain't the space.
The 911 engine is not scarce anywhere-just grossly overpriced.
Porsche people have stupid money and vendors know it-I'm continually
astounded at parts prices, OEM or aftermarket. It's also wider than
Only in the US are Corvair engines readily available, but they can
ship anywhere. Rebuild costs are surprisingly low. There is some parts
commonality with the smallblock Chevy which is the most rebuilt engine
in the world.
The huge reliability of the D-Series Citroen four makes engine swaps
rare-what other engines HAVE been used? OTOH, the V6 in the SM cried
out for replacement.
Cars the age of DS and SM wouldn't really be candidates for engine swaps
any more nowadays - after all these are classics and their owners should
aim to keep them in good condition they way they were built. I guess in
general the engine swap craze was more of an american phenomenon; in
Europe people may have been swapping different VW engines or put a Dyane
engine into a 2CV - but swapping for a completely different kind of
engine was mostly unheard of.
I have to admit, the thought is intriguing. Creating the kind of car
they had in mind, back then. Wonder how it would behave. I believe the
magic in the DS comes from the special way it sits on the road,
especially when driven a bit spirited. I wonder how it would feel with
the totally different weight distribution coming from a low sitting
Marc Gerges ( email@example.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
Speaking of which, I'm very happy to report that the 652cc Visa engined 2cv
4x4 is back home as of about half an hour ago - working nicely again...
Just a rebuilt front gearbox & transfer box, steering rack, new clutch,
gearbox mount, suspension arm bearings...
Ian Dalziel ( firstname.lastname@example.org) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
Cheaper than the Acad was a couple of months ago. MUCH cheaper.
That was a steering rack, arm bearings, 'box mount, lower screen surround
(inner and outer), toeboard, rear valance and box section, four tyres...
Just got to paint the pair of 'em now... Dulux, bien sur. Just got to
figure the colour scheme.
I'm tempted by pink'n'purple camouflage on the 4x4...
On May 15, 3:14 pm, email@example.com (Marc Gerges) wrote:
Oddly enough I saw a Studillac at the parking lot car show yesterday-
a Studebaker with a Cadillac engine. The owner did it just recently
with a kit still available. That was a popular swap in the Eisenhower
I found some of the bits for my old 911s to be really cheap. Wheel bearings
for £7 for example.
In fact, the only thing I ever bought for one which I thought was expensive
was the bonnet badge - which cost £39. After buying it I was quite impressed
with the quality so I wasn't that upset.
Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi Mk2 2.0 8v
When opening the hood and taking a look, be aware that the flat engine
was supposed to go before the front wheels - where the gear box sat in
the production layout. If you wanted to switch, you'd have to switch
engine/gearbox/differential to replicate the setup that Levebre, Mages
and the other fellows wanted to have back then.
When going with the inline 4, they had to switch the entire layout,
putting the engine behind the front wheels, adding that bulge in the
firewall to make room for it.
It would be an entirely different car, from a weight distribution point
of view. I wonder if it would work at all.
RapidRonnie ( firstname.lastname@example.org) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
I've seen it described as a lot of things, none of which it is. It was a
(series of?) development mule for the SM.
Not so - it's fixed already. Some timing chain tensioner mods and swap the
sodium exhaust valves for solid ones.
Why? Does it *matter* which way round the engine rotates?
Besides, the 6-pot Traction started off one way, and changed to the other.
The pushrod five-bearing rotates one way in the DS and the other in the CX.
Odd, I thought they were most useful in boats as anchors.
Strange how everywhere else it was regarded as being actually quite a quick
They still shell routinely. And a major is around $6K US now.
Can you put a CX engine in a DS? I understand only with substantial
machine work, because of the gerotor oil pump can't be reversed. I
may be wrong.
Since almost all car engines except Honda are RH, a swap is made
impossible. The SM could have really used any of several plants.
You have no experience. I was astonished to learn that the Norwegians
and Swedes buy a LOT of 454 Chevies for boats. What I do know is that
every ski boat and small ofshore race style boat uses American V8 car
power. Mercury Marine, Volvo Penta and OMC all use GM engines
mostly. Volvo offered a few Volvo engines but they were mostly too
low sustained horsepower.
It had good top end and on highway performance but off the line it
Citroen supplied matching engines with the DS as well as with the CX.
They fit and work.
The SM was built to use the Maserati V6. Surprisingly, it fit, and it
made the SM one of the quickest cars of its time.
Maserati didn't built its engines for maximum life time in
less-than-perfect maintenance, so many of them did suffer especially
starting with 2nd and 3rd owners.
Right. It probably wasn't really matched to american style of driving.
When your competition has 3 times the engine size and is built for
straight line acceleration, you may look a tad sluggish.
I can nicely keep up with traffic in my DS, but mostly due to the (still
remarkable) road holding, not the sheer power.
Can top that: an aquaintances has a Traction 15. Except for highway use,
it is no road block whatsoever. It does feel surprisingly sporty,
How's that for a car discontinued more than 50 years ago...?
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