flushing oil, replacement £xpensive power steering pipe, comfort spheres

it's that time again, repair the few faults on an otherwise good car or declare it a POS, bin it and buy another one ?
1/ anyone know who does the cheapest flushing oil ?
2/ I'm getting quoted £100+ vat for a power steering pump pipe.
it's a one piece job with about 2' of rubber hose in the middle, presumably to aid fitting. it goes between the hydraulic pump and the power steering pump. lots of complex bends. are they /really/ £100+ vat and how long would one expect a seriously experienced mechanic to swap one out ?
3/ are pliades the cheapest for recon spheres and *how* wallowy are comfort spheres ? broken damper wallowy or just comfy ?
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. (--@-.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

This is your Xant, right?

GSF do it for £14.50 for 5 litres - how much time do you want to spend trying to find it cheaper?

Take your car to somebody with clue. It doesn't even _have_ a power steering pump.

The hydraulic pump provides the power for the steering.
Any half decent Citroen specialist will have rolls of cupro-nickel pipe in both diameters, flaring tools and unions to suit.

Don't waste your money on recon spheres. Just buy new ones.

They're great for XMs and VSX Xants with hydractive that's stuck in permanent hard - or for people who are trying to mask other hydraulic problems.
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Adrian wrote:

depends. it might be my BMW 530d touring soon......

0. what's the capacity ? HBOL is charecteristically vague

he has a clue, forgive me, I've misdescribed the part:
there's 3/4 outlets from the hydraulic pump. one of those pipes turns into a rubber hose, crosses the front of the car under the rad then turns back into a metal pipe just under the front valance, near side. it's leaking at that point.

obviously, my bad. power steering actuator ?

he is a cit specialist. he has all the tools. he's been at it for a long time and he's never had cause to do this particular job. when citroen faxed through the line drawings (to select the correct part number) we both agreed that /that/ was the right part. quote £95 +vat
if you have information to counter that I'm all ears. I'm happy to give you the guys phone number and let you quizz him.

GSF again, right ? so all that regassing at the cit meet, is that a waste of money or a cash cow ?

ok, ta for that.
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. (--@-.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

You're right. A POS.
alt.autos.bmw is that way ->

4 litres or so.

Ah, OK.

Later Xant with 6+2 pump, I presume? Could well be - the power steering doesn't go through the main regulator block, like on older hydraulic cars. I'm fairly sure they're all-metal on my s2 XM, though.

Sounds about right for a Cit parts price... <wince>

Could take it to somewhere like Pirtek - if it's a leak where the flex joins the metal, they may be able to do something.

New spheres are £20 each. Only lot I know of that still do regassing (Westroen in Manchester) charge £125 for five regassed spheres fitted. Haven't noticed anybody doing any at an event for years (but I might have missed someone)
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Adrian wrote:

thanks. will supply my own flushing oil and expect a small discount for the cit bloke not using any of his LHM

that's what he said. what do you think about it being a 2 hour job ?

<nods>
the entire metal union is corroded beyond repair. it's location is why I thought it would be a common fault with an inexpensive fix, what with all the water, salt and grit the part is exposed to.

ok, ok. I'll buy new from GSF

will bear that in mind.

<FX/tannoy>last chance for sphere regassing before the parade</FX>
p.s
if all 5 spheres are replaced (accum ok) and flushing oil is in for 1000 miles and the LHM is replaced but float isn't evident, what's the next likely fault ? there's a lot of life left in the car but there is also a limit to how much I'm willing to spend to prove that, iyswim.
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. (--@-.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

If you were there, and I was there, it seems more "stalkery" NOT to look me out and say hello...
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Adrian wrote:

how do you know I didn't ? hmm ?
/that's/ "stalkery" :o)
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. (--@-.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Quite...
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gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

But then 'Dotties' secrete would be out, I understand that it's difficult to disguise a penis shapped object...
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Is it possible to replace the part with a length of suitably bent copper tubing as used in central heating and a jubilee clip? I did this successfully on a metal fuel pipe on a Pug 205D.
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"end user" v. A command regrettably not implemented in most systems.
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<snip>

I wouldn't like to do that on the 'pressure' side of a hydraulic circuit, and certainly not on a system that is safety critical...!
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