Hi all, ive come to the point in my life where i need an unusual car.
Citroen would be my first choice, ive always loved their style. Basically
the choice is between a ds or cx (some people have suggested a bx, but i
think the styling isnt as nice as the old ones)
It seems the cx is getting quite rare, how are these for parts and
reliability and keeping up with modern traffic? any big things to look out
for when i come to inspecting one? rust i take it is a one of the big things
to look out for, anything else?
Im quite hand with my hands, and have owned old cars before, so working on
the basics doesnt scare me, but what about these hydrulics? only to be done
by an expert?
well thats about all of it i think, just looking for some opinions from
owners, thanks for listening to my question.
Having owned two CXs and a BX, I would say that the CX is by far the
superior car. I recall the advert Citroen for the BX that ran something
like "Loves roads, hates garages" - my feeling was at the time that this
was because the BX spent so much time in the garage, that it was sick of
Damian ( email@example.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with BXs - but they really aren't
to be considered in the same breath as the D and CX...
Are Ds and CXs really to be considered in the same breath? No, I'm not sure
they are. They're very different beasts. I've had four CXs, but never a D -
and, to be perfectly honest, I just can't see myself owning one, even
thought I adore them deeply.
No problem at all.
A CX turbo has damn near 170bhp...
Not at all. Very straightforward.
Are you in the UK? If so, come along to the CCC National Rally this
weekend, at Wood Green Showground, Godmanchester, Huntingdon. Have a damn
good look at CXs, have a damn good look at Ds - see which floats your boat.
Your main issues are going to be corrosion IMO , assuming that you
can get your head around the hydraulics (have a look at this site
http://www.citroen-ds-id.com /), both the D and the CX are real post
war Citroens - the BX has a lot of Peugeot influence, especially in
the engine and drive-chain.
If you are just handy with mechanicals then you might be best
thinking about a BX, although even BX rust.
 unless you are very fortunate or can throw a cheque book at the
Had an accident with a mk1 once. I was so distracted by the weird
speedometer I didn't see that the car in front of me was braking.
The BX has become so common it's easily forgotten that it was a
d:J0han; Certifiable me
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A DS clearly is a vintage car, which means that you have to take care
for it and search for spare parts etc. Usualy DS-cars do not have an
catalytic converter, ABS brakes are not available, so the use of an
DS in everey day life is somewhat limited (okay, the use of a pre-war
15 CV Traction Avant may be even more limited). Compared to that a
late CX is a more modern solution - which may well fall into the gap
between vintage cars and modern cars. You will also have to search
for parts and for experts to maintain this car, but its outdated
emission standards may cause problems when running it in metropolitan
areas (you will not be allowed to run such a car in many european
Ever thought about a nice XM, fully loaded, in perfect condition?
Frank Kemper ( firstname.lastname@example.org) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
Strictly speaking, no.
"Vintage" is a clearly defined term, applying to cars built after 1918
(Before that would be Veteran) and before 1931.
Same applies to a CX.
D parts are easier to find than CX parts.
Nor do CXs. And that's good. Catalytic converters are bloody horrible
things that should never have been legally enforced.
They're only on very late CXs, not on s1 CXs which is - I suspect - what's
being considered here.
But you forgot airbags! And traction control! And ESP suspension! And Xenon
lights! And headlights that turn with the steering! And fancy hi-tech
manual gearboxes that operate the clutch for you! And all the other utterly
unnecessary crap modern cars are inflicted with.
I drove the Acadiane to work today, instead of the XM. And I enjoyed it FAR
FAR more. There's loads of Ds in every day use in the UK, with many of them
doing quite large mileages.
Fortunately, that is very unlikely to be a problem in the UK in the
foreseeable future. Traffic causing ridiculous journey times is a *far*
Speaking as an ex-CX owner and current XM owner, I can only say... <yawn>
The XM just doesn't cut it HERE <thumps chest> in the same way as a CX or a
DS does. Sure, it's a far more practical car. If you don't mind all the
little niggly problems they have. But it's just not got the same emotional
Oh, and XM parts and expertise aren't exactly common.
2Rowdy ( email@example.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :
I dunno about that. I'm sure there were semi-auto boxes before - Citroen
never really did anything *NEW*-new, they just slapped it all together and
had the balls to sell it - but the BVH in the D was certainly a milestone
that got forgotten and has recently been resurrected with many computers
and much hype... Just like the headlights.
Err neither of those 'things' are required for everyday motoring,
indeed there are arguments to be made that both cause more problems
than they solve. A DS is quite capable of keeping up with normal
everyday driving - in fact (again there is an argument to be made
that the DS is some what better equipped to do so than many cars
Indeed there is a parts supply problem, but then again try obtaining
some parts for 15 year old cars - of most makes.
Compared to that a
Says who, can you cite such retrospective (EU?) legislation please -
if you are correct it will mean that just about all old cars
(remember that the CX remained in production well into the 1980's)
will fall foul of this.
Hmmm, anything that relies on software and silicon chips is going to
be bad news when the obsolete E[lectronic] CU or sensors give up.
Ever wonder why the 2CV is so popular?!...
. ( snipped-for-privacy@.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
You'd struggle to pay more than £3-4k for a CX, unless it's a RHD Prestige
Turbo (Cit only built five...)
Any really nice D is closing on £10k - and a decap sold a little while ago
for Eur125,000 - in need of restoration...
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