After being parked for about 24 hours, reversing out of the parking space
there was a nasty crunching sort of sound from under the back of the car
and after that I noticed that the foot and hand brake levers were moving a
very long way with almost no effect. Managed to park safely and legally
and left it in gear on the flat, with no damage or other excitement, but
I'm not looking forward to the expense!
Just as I was setting off for a family emergency too.
Last serviced in the summer and not many thousand miles added since. MOT
passed in December.
That was one of my thoughts; I had a shoe disintegrate once before, many
years ago, and the sound-effects and loss of braking were similar. I
can't see any fluid leaking onto the ground, so the hydraulic system
seems to be intact still. I couldn't find any debris either, so whatever
failed is still attached to the car somewhere.
I have no intention of driving it! I like being able to stop, for one
thing ;)) I'll have to get it towed to the garage when I get around to
thinking about it again - family matters take precedence at present. I
just hope public transport can fill the gap well enough.
Good luck with the family matters/emergency, but get it recovered to the
garage today, and it'll probably be ready tonight or tomorrow... It's not
a big job, only an hour or two and maybe Â£100 in parts at most.
Errr .... I don't watch the garage doing the work, but the car was 10
years old at the time of the last service in July, and had just over
90,000 miles on the clock. The invoice I paid mentions "renew rear wheel
cylinders and bleed system" and the work-sheet has boxes for "check
operation and condition of front brakes" and "check operation and
condition of rear brakes (including handbrake)" and "carry out brake
report" all of which were ticked. The pads/shoes at the front were
reported as having 20% wear, and the rear 25%, and the discs/drums were
described as 'corroded' (I was also charged for "brake cleaner" which I
assumed was to deal with the corroded discs). The brakes seemed to me to
be working correctly, right up to the moment they weren't.
Naturally, I'll draw all that to the attention of the garage when I go in
to tell them that my brakes failed.
I remember that the first time I took the car for an MOT, back in 2001,
the garage (not the one I use now) told me the front brake shoes were
'fake' and crumbling and had to be replaced before they'd let the car back
on the road. They showed me some that were indeed in a bad way (but then
they would, I suppose).
I didn't have time to arrange anything before resorting to rail travel,
and only got back last night. I sincerely hope it doesn't cost more than
about 100 quid to fix - I'm skint. Railway tickets are not cheap, either!
Quite possibly everything was OK, if what is suspected has happened it
has not happened out of ware and tear but just old age.
The pads/shoes at the front were
No, that is cleaning fluid to de-dust the friction linings and
surfaces, quite frankly most garages absorb this cost (no pun
intended) as part of the service/labour charge - how much did they
Just make sure that they *KNOW* what 'you' suspect the problem is,
that way they will hopefully lift the rear wheels and not the front
when recovering the car back to their workshops... The bug in the soup
in all this will be how much they charge for the recovery. :~(
On close inspection of the invoice, that item is listed but no specific
charge is shown for it.
If they lift the back they'll have to take it out of gear too, of course;
the front wheels won't go round otherwise. Hopefully I can arrange to be
there when the tow-truck arrives - I'm one of the 'time rich' so that's
quite possible. The car is less than two miles from the garage.
just a note on "brake cleaner" a friend of mine who used to run a
garage bought an expensive wheel around brake cleaner from snap-on, it
had an air line and hose fitted which fed brake cleaning fluid through
a brush and a big collection tray similar to wheel around oil change
catchers ( forgive lack of techy terms).
when the local council started taking an interest in the enviroment
they were very impressed with it as it collected all the fluid and
dust/rust/crap in one go, but because of the enviromental issue he
could now start charging for it instead of just absorbing the cost.
If i recall it was only around £1 - £1.50 but when you seen how super
clean it could make your braking system i thought it was well worth a
pound or too, plus added benefit for me i could use it myself when ever
i had a little job on and it made life so much easier.
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