Follow up plate saga

I just KNOW youll all be interested in the latest chapter of the number retention saga so I thought I'd be kind and let you know ;o)

Hubby and associated riff-raff went to auctions last night and bought the cheapest car new enough to put the plate on - an absolutely horrid Rover 100 Knightsbridge, for £300. One of the boys brought it home on a trailer because its tax had been surrendered and now its sat on the driveway while I hurriedly try and find a pot plant big enough to hide it behind.

Spotted the problem yet? Yep, its untaxed, and the DVLA tell me it needs to be taxed in order to put the plate on it! Now we're in a pickle - hubby doesnt really want to go to the expense of insuring the nasty little thing, its not as though anyone will actually ever drive it! It just needs to sit there and have a plate put on and then off of it and then go back on the trailer to the auction. So back on the blower I get, trying to find the cheapest method of insuring it just so I can get it a tax disc just so I can get it a registration just so I can get the registration on retention ;o) Oh, the fun life is...

No company I asked wanted to offer 'non road use' cover ('lay up policy I think they called it) because the car is too YOUNG (its a P reg). Neither of the companies insuring our classics would allow us to 'swap' cover onto it for a few days, again because its too young and our policies are classic only. Nobody wanted to offer any period of cover under 3 months, which is WELL over what we need - just a week cover note would do to buy tax with. Eventually I got the insurer of my car to add this one to the policy for seven days for £27. What a ripoff - I already told them I wouldnt take it on the road (someone might SEE me!).

Then on to the local Licencing Office. Yep, they're happy to take another £55 off me to tax it for six months, AND they'll be similarly happy to take another £80 to transfer hubbys reg onto it even though the logbook is still in its old keepers name as long as I surrender the logbook then to have it changed over to him. However, what they WONT do is a paper transaction only and register the plate on the Rover and then STRAIGHT off again onto retention - they want to wait for that until the logbook arrives back in hubbys name. Oh, and then they'll relieve me of another £105 (£80 transfer plus £25 for the cert) to get the retention document!

So, in thanks for the conversations here, I offer this as a cautionary tale for anyone (boo hiss) who has a personal plate - for the love of God dont even THINK of selling it until your old reg is safely on either its new car or a certificate! This saga has cost a bloody fortune, although hubby reckons he can actually make a profit on the Rover when its all over - God knows how, who the hell would buy one of those things? Luv Michelle P.S. Anyone want to buy a Rover? ;o)

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michelle
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I still really can't see why you can't just get the owner of the car currently bearing your plate to do a direct transfer to your car?

-- Howard Rose

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Howard Rose

I could have done... if only hubbys new car had been registered post

1986. Unfortunately its 25 years out for that
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michelle

michelle ( snipped-for-privacy@zzzxxxzzz.null) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

What about your car, with the other "matching" plate?

Transfer C5HIS to your car, with your C5HER going to retention. Then transfer C5HER back to yours, with C5HIS going to retention.

Or is that too simple?

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Adrian

So, it looks like it's going to cost about 300 quid to do it your way. What's the problem? Why not just pay the money if it's something you really want to do? How many days do you have to piss away while you could be doing something more profitable? Doesn't your time have

*some* value to you? I know that mine does. Sometimes you just need to look at the economics of a situation, and not get obsessive about beating the system at all costs. Sometimes, *you're* the loser when you do that. Do it the straightforward £300 way, and don't tell us that's what you've done. That way, you get a result, and your dignity remains intact.

P.S. Please send the photos to me, too.

Thanks,

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Dan Drake

Now THATS touched a nerve ;o) Ive no idea why but I think Im turning into Ms Citizen Smith - Im currently battling a £30 parking ticket which has taken HOURS of donkeywork so far and loads more to go when I get to court. Im just annoyed that DVLA seemingly deliberately make it hard to keep a plate they were quite happy to take money for to sell me! Theres a Morris Minor floating round with the reg 1AN, which has to be worth at least ten times the car its on, but the bastards at DVLA wont let it be transferred to another vehicle, but WILL offer it for reissue if its allowed to lapse (at of course an appropriate fee paid to THEM). Nothing cynical about that, is there?

Shhhh. Hubby will want some ;o)

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michelle

Tell him he can pay for them, like I had to.

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Ben Blaney

Right, all is clear now!

-- Howard Rose

1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe
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Howard Rose

My friend used to have a Series 2 Landrover with a plate ***1 on it... that was non-transferrable too!

-- Howard Rose

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Howard Rose

It took months for me to manage to get mine dropped, as the council weren't sure if I'm responsible for someone trying to steal the car in the dead of night or not..

Im just

The DVLA are a bunch of bastards, but on the other hand, I see nothing wrong with their rules for once supporting maintaining older cars, instead of trying to force everyone to keep the motor industry happy by buying brand new foil and plastimobile shitboxes.

Oh, and I haven't dropped into the group for quite a while now, just catching up on the pretentious plate diatribe. My feelings are clear, unless the plate says something crude, smutty, or otherwise offensive yet humourous, they're a waste of time and money, and don't say much good about the person behind the wheel. However, your posts, especially the ones where you seem to be under the illusion you're defending yourself, make you come across as headstrong, bitchy, and more than a touch unhinged. Just the sort of woman I go for in fact. Have we ever.......? ;)

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Stuffed

So that Minor will never be allowed to die and will remain "affordable" (if you don't tell the vendor your name is Ian!), which is a good thing but doesn't alter the fact that the DVLA is just another branch of a government which taxes everything without telling anyone.

Pete

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Pete W

Surely that Morris has got into that situation for a reason. Probably that the number had at one point lapsed and then been reinstated when the owner managed to persuade the DVLA that it was correct for the car. At that stage, the DVLA could have refused to reinstate the number. Instead they presumably allowed it to be reinstated on the provision that it couldn't then be sold on at a profit.

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Willy Eckerslyke

FYI DVLA only sells registration marks which have never been issued before.

The registration mark is the property of the department and can be withdrawn at any time.

They then give you the opportunity to put it on a car registered in your name. At this point it belongs to the car.

In this particular case the vrm was presumably not placed onto the computer record when the conversions took place in the late 70's early

80's.

The owners clubs quite rightly kicked off and said that the plate is part of the history of the vehicle and should be allowed back on.

DVLA said if you are claiming this because the no is part of the history of that car then it can stay be allowed back on but it will not be transferable.

When that car dies the no. will die with it.

I doubt if DVLA will ever be able to sell on previously issued numbers as they would not be able to deal with the compensation claims if loads of original cars and hand written log books turned up.

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Peter Chadbund

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