Historic Car Tax

Ltd says...

"However, the Government continues to judge that in the light of its
environmental focus for Vehicle Excise Duty it would be inappropriate
to extend the exemption at this point in time."

What utter shit. My 1980's Capri is a damned sight more environmentally
friendly than an old side valve Anglia.


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Conor

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Just curious - based on which parameters, exactly?

GMacK

says...

MPG, emissions. The 32/36DGAV has some emissions reduction trickery
built into it that the Anglebox carbs don't. It also manages better MPG
than an Anglebox.



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Conor

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I'm not sure that line of argument is likely to help the cause. Unless you
want the concession removed altogether...

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Yep, lots more plastic and rubber........... ;-)
Badger.

Where?

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Dashboard and fascia trim for one, larger door trims covering the metalwork,
centre console, probably more rubber bushings utilised for NVH as well I'd
imagine, not that you'd realise it driving one, however. :-(
From my personal experience of capri's, they are extremely environmentally
unfriendly due to the ammount of fossil fuel burnt at the power station to
power the MIG welder required at least on an annual basis come MOT time.....
;-)
Badger.

Apart from the dash, the door cards are mostly material but I get the
point.


LOL. Describes the black 2.8i Special my current one replaced. "Rear
chassis leg is a bit thin and it's been plated at least once already"
was a comment from the MOT tester the last time I MOT'd the 2.8..


Apart from a strut top repair, the current one hasn't had or needs any
structural work and the bodywork was all done last year.


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Conor

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write:


Yes it's complete nonsense. The environmental impact occurs when you
a) manufacture a car
b) scrap a car
c) use a car

There are minimal environmental consequences of owning a vehicle, at
least if it is kept off the street. The additional emissions caused by
running an older car are greatly outweighed by the environmental cost
of scrapping it and manufacturing a new car. Therefore it makes sense
to encourage people to keep older cars on the road.

That of course won't be how the SMMT sees it!

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wrote:


What they really mean is that "as we are doing our damnesdest to hammer
everyone for as much tax as possible it wouldn't be logical for us to
give anyone else a concession they don't already have..."  ;-)

I now have four Minis, all with near-identical engines, but one of them
has to pay road tax! It's not even the one I use the most...


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---1967 Riley Elf---1978 Mini 1000---1971 Mini Clubman---
----1972 Mini Clubman estate----------1979 Ford Capri----
-----1966 Triumph Herald Estate------1957 Standard 8-----

wrote:


The *real* question is, how does it compare by *any* of the current
measures for cars?  Very badly, I'm sure.

It seems to me that this rolling/not rolling date for road tax
exemption thing should really pretty much be a non-issue.  It's a tax,
it's just a bit of money, it's not like anyone's sneaking up while
you're not looking and crushing your old Cortina.  Life ain't fair, it
never has been.  Get over it.  Just pay the money and keep your car.

If you crush your 1974 Ferrari/Dino 246 because you can't get a free
tax disc for it then you deserve to have your nuts cut off with a dull
and rusty knife.  And I'll take that car off your hands.

Dean Dark wrote:


But would you say the same about a 1974 Saab 96, Rover P6, Austin 1300,
etc? It's these lower value classics built both sides of the cut-off
date that are in real danger. Why would anyone bother to restore a ropey
example from 1974 when they can save tax by choosing an otherwise
identical car that's a couple of years older?

That's the point, and I'm already aware of someone scrapping a royal
household Land Rover for that reason. It was a '74 Safari, needed
chassis work and he scrapped it rather than have it repaired. The
government won't be upset, but it was a rare historic vehicle - one with
an internal rear windscreen wiper which tends to indicate "was use to
carry corgis".

Steve Firth wrote:


Series 3 Land Rovers are also a bit of a special case as their
identities are so easily switched. It's got to the state now that it's
almost impossible to buy a genuine tax exempt Series 3 with any
certainty that it's original.

says...


MK1 Essies are the same.

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Conor

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handy if you happen to have an older 'spares car' wink wink...

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:56:48 +0100, Willy Eckerslyke


There's any number of Minis on Ebay described as "tax exempt", then some
bullshit like "reshelled into 93 car". What they really mean is that
they got a 93 Mini, took the VIN plate off a (probably restorable)
pre-72 car, then claimed that the newer car is tax exempt. Clearly
illegal in so many ways.
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---1967 Riley Elf---1978 Mini 1000---1971 Mini Clubman---
----1972 Mini Clubman estate----------1979 Ford Capri----
-----1966 Triumph Herald Estate------1957 Standard 8-----

says...


I'm not even going to argue that. But the point is, they claim it is
for environmental reasons whilst allowing generations of vehicles with
worse standards to be zero rated.



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