Funny how cars from completely different manufacturers often bear a striking resemblance to one another. Just seen a pic of a Michelloti update on a Dolomite that looks remarkably like a FIAT 132. What other cadidates can we all come up with?
Pug 404 and BMC Farina... Alfa 164 and Pug 605 etc...
Jonners
Was the Fiat 132 designed by Michelloti? A lot of his designs have similar touches, eg. Herald and BMW 700.
Fiat Chinky-chenko and Honda 600 Mazda MX-5 and Lotus Elan both of which are clearly intentional.
In article , Jon Tilson writes
And Fiat 1800/2100/2300
Fiat 1200/1500/1600 Spider and Peugeot 404 Convertible
1955 Chrysler, Volvo 100-series and Rover P5Lancia Gamma and Citroen CX
Alfasud, Citroen GS and 1979-84 Vauxhall Astra/Opel Kadett
Lancia Gamma Coupe, Fiat 130 Coupe and Ferrari 365 GT4 2+2/400/412
Can't think of any more for the moment.
Peugeot 203 looks remarkably Morris-1000-like from some angles!
Jaguar XK120 FHC and Bugatti something and even more closely BMW something (not my speciality so can't remember models!).
Geoff MacK
Rover SD1 and Ferrari Daytona - admitted by Rover. They had to be joking.
Geoff MacK
Goggomobile Royale and Daf 33
Wait for chorus of *What?* :-)
Hillman Imp looks like a Chevrolet Corvair that shrunk in the wash. There's a particular series of Beetle-based VW Karmann-Ghia that also looks Corvair-like.
Hope this starts a new thread - not good at these here computers.
Just curious and would like to tap the knowledge of the NG, which seems to have improved immensely over the past couple of years since a few nutters have disappeared. In other words I should be doing my VAT return and can't be ***** so I thought I'd go to something more interesting.
I asked a question about the Riley Pathfinder recently and now recall that it had a bench front seat with a neat little cutout by the driver's right thigh in which there was a very short and very precise gear stick.
In my yoof I had a number of cars which had a right hand gear change (RR 20, odd Bentleys, all very pre-war) and for no particular reason rather liked the arrangement. To complicate matters further, some had the pedals in odd places - I recall an Alvis with a central throttle, and I'm sure there were others. OK most of the time, but habits and conditioning meant that a double declutch to change down meant you ended up playing the bass part of the Toccata and Fugue while the car became quite excited and extremely puzzled.
Anyway, to return to my muttons, I just wonder if the Pathfinder was the last RHD car to have a right hand manual gear change? I think the first Bentley Continental was so equipped, but I've never had or driven one so I'm not sure - also I don't recall if it was later or earlier than the Riley. I think the R Type, and Mk 6 Bentley of roughly the same era were also fitted with a right hand gear lever. This is the fifties, possibly early sixties.
Please ignore variants on the pre-selector (still to me the best compromise between manual and automatic) as you could put the selector pretty much anywhere.
Just curious!
Geoff MacK
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Rolls-Royce and Bentley retained a right-hand gearchange on their RHD cars until automatics became standard; apparently a very few early S1 Bentleys were produced to special order with manual gearboxes so perhaps
1956 would be the last year for manual cars from Crewe. All Silver Clouds were automatic, and the Silver Cloud/S-series range was launched in April 1955. The Pathfinder ran until 1957, when it was replaced by the Two-point-Six, which IIRC had a column change like the Wolseley 6/90 on which it was based.However, I don't think the Pathfinder was the last RHD car equipped with a right-hand gearchange. The BMW Isetta was produced in RHD form until
1964, and that retained a right-hand gearshift. Perhaps the Pathfinder was the last proper car (ducking to avoid missiles thrown by irate Isetta owners).What about the Light Car Company Rocket (1992-ish)? I can't remember where the gearchange was, but it may well have been on the right. Or wouldn't that count, because it was neither left- or right-hand drive? Come to that, what about that other product of Gordon Murray's fertile brain, the McLaren F1? A right-hand gearshift, but I suppose the central driving position disqualifies it.
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The Karmann Ghia you're thinking of is the "razoredge?" Definite resemblance.
How about Ford Thunderbird & Sunbeam Alpine?!
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Hope that helps.
Reliant Scimitar GTE:-
The Scimitar GTC also remarkably resembles a Mark IV Cortina. Here's a Cortina:-
They only said they nicked some styling clues from it.
MG Magnette Z Type, and MkII Jag?
The 164 & 605 are in fact the same 'basic' car (well apart from the differences .....)
I believe the dimensions are very similar too. There used to be a Daytona look-alike kitcar built on an SD1 that even re-used the doors, A & B pillars.
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In article , Jon Tilson writes
Ferrari 250 GT 2+2 and Lancia Flavia Coupe Maserati 3500 Coupe and Lancia Flaminia Coupe Touring
Now that I don't see!
Errr. Not that either...
Yeah, t a small extent. Not the 365/400/214 though...
New Honda Accord & Mazda6. Every 50s & 60s US car ;-)
Ciao
Zak
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In message , James H writes
The real similarity is between the estate version of the Allegro, and the rare estate version of the Alfasud.
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