Does anybody know a reliable way of establishing the year of manufacture of a Trabant? A friend of mine has just obtained one, which he believes was stored for some time between manufacture and registration. He knows the date of registration, but of course the Historic Vehicles class is based on date of manufacture.
Take it back to were it came from and get them to tell you. Leave it there.
Yet more proof that the moniker "classic" means old piece of shit that should have be crushed years ago. Is there some other less abused term we can apply to the more desirable old but non vintage cars that will exclude POS?
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Peter Hill realised it was Sat, 27 May 2006 10:26:12 +0100 and decided it was time to write:
Please don't project your personal, subjective idea of what constitutes a classic on the rest of the world. One man's POS may be another man's classic - we don't all like old cars for the same reasons. Your use of the word 'desirable' illustrates how personal and subjective the label 'classic' really is.
Take vintage cars, for instance. They've been POS's since the 1920's. There was a time when many people considered them crushworthy. But today they're coveted for their idiosynchracies and historical significance. The world will be a shallower place if historically significant cars like Trabants are all crushed, just because they were POS cars.
A classic is simply an old car which gives pleasure to the owner - for whatever reason. It's not up to you - or anyone else - to say what should be crushed.
He has got in touch with the Wartburg and Trabant owners club and they have started digging for him. Their first response is that this is a rare one. One made specifically for export, as it doesn't have the standard trim and trimmings.
The translation of the original German documents shows two apparently significant dates. He believes one is the date of manufacture, and the other is the date of registration for export. But to get an age related plate, it is not good enough to suspect, there has to be documentary proof.
For now, he will let the owners club do their research. Unless of course anyone in this NG has the magic list of vehicle numbers for each year?
I watch the keyboard, not the screen, when I type. I obviously hit the E and R together and didn't notice. And as HER is a valid word, the spell checker let it through.
Dave Plowman (News) ( snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
I don't know about Trabbi, but with Tatras (and, yes, there's a very big difference in the user profile of the two...), they often went back to the factory and got comprehensively updated - early ones would re-emerge with the later restyles and mechanical upgrades.
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