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So how come you don't understand how these callipers work then, tell
us what the set text-book was for C&G levels 1 to 4 then, or have you
hit your head and forgotten all you would have learnt back then?...

I'm waiting for you to tell me. After all, you're the one claiming I
don't know so educate me.

tell

There's no such thing as level 4 CGLI 383 and there was no set text
book either.

Thanks for proving you never sat it.


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Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

But I already have...


Oh yes there was - on both accounts - so thank *you* for proving that
you never took your "C&G Motor Vehicle Craft Studies"...


No, I never took your dumbed down excuse for an aprentership, I got my
qualifications when they were worth they salt, taught us how things
work, how and why they go wrong and how to fix them without just
opening the box of a service exchange unit, they didn't just teach
glorified grease-monkeys how to correctly tighten nuts and bolts in
the 'fast-fit' bay... Tell us Conor, seeing that I have told everyone
when I started in the motor trade, when did you start - what car model
was the new hot British design in the showroom?

Where? Where have you demonstrated its operation in regard to the self
adjuster?



That was the CGLI 381, dumbass, not the 383.


Same here, spunkstain. As an apprentice at a Land Rover dealership, the
first thing I was given to do to see how I got on was to strip and
rebuild a V8. As a mechanic, I once had to cut a gearbox off a car and
had to strip it and replace the input shaft I'd had to hack through.



1986. Not much in the way of hot new designs as everything was pretty
much an update of previous incarnations.

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Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

studied motor vehicle design or engineering will understand exactly
(from the ASCII art in that message) how the adjuster works and why
applying pressure in the wrong direction could (and probably will)
damage the unit.


Stop talking to yourself...

 As an apprentice at a Land Rover dealership, the

Liar, more like you looked over the shoulder of someone else... BTW
how does one correctly prime the oil pump on one of those Rover V8
engines?

 As a mechanic, I once had to cut a gearbox off a car and

Err, and what does that prove, that sort of work was my daily bread
for many years after I moved into crash, restoration and car
conversions from what had by then become the normal brain-numbing
'service and replace' side of the trade.

It worked. It both wound it in and it took up the slack.


Were you there? No. So keep your WRONG opinions to yourself.


So you're still a knuckle dragging mechanic then? At least I had the
sense to see it for what it was - the typical refuge of the school
remedial classes.

Most mechanics then and now are people who were incapable of passing O
levels. Thanks to the fact I passed my 11+, I got a nice raft of O
levels so was able to get out of spannering when I finally recognised
it for what it was - the best that 11 plus failures could hope for.


--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

I'd be very careful going down this road....
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

says...

I can only speak from experience from the type of person I worked with
and saw at college.

--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

What 'slack', again you apply demonstrate that you do not understand
how these callipers work. the fact that you seem to have been (very)
lucky does mitigate that you (to put it simply) bodged a very simple
job. All you had to do was turn the piston!


Considering that you didn't answer the question placed proves that you
arte a liar, and until you do prove that you know even the most basic
of fact regarding working on these engines...


No I didn't say that at all, looks like you need remedial reading
classes, you seem to not understand what the word 'was' means!...

...does *NOT* mitigate...

No Conor, it *was* called  "C&G Motor Vehicle Craft Studies", you have
just proved that you never took anything near the quality of
apprentership I took, you basically took a collage course that taught
you enough to find work in the motor trade [1] as there were no
apprenterships (as such) by the mid 1980s...

[1]  the courses I took could only be taken once employed in a
apprentership

--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:


Just a thought, but you do realise we're talking about the _rear_
brakes, don't you?

says...


Lump of wood. Whilst the piston can cope with pressure being exerted
that way, cast may not be that happy.


--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

You have just proved that you *are* nothing more than a worthless
troll, your understanding is less than someone who has seen these
callipers (and the Rover P6), never mind worked on them.

they were saying:


<puts hand up>
I've never seen a P6 rear caliper up close, but I'm wondering exactly wtf
Conor's on about...

I really fail to see any way in which a wind-back piston can be wound
back with a G-clamp, especially given that it doesn't sound like it's a
sliding-yoke single-piston design...

they were saying:


I've never seen a P6 rear caliper up close, but I'm wondering exactly wtf
Conor's on about...

I really fail to see any way in which a wind-back piston can be wound
back with a G-clamp, especially given that it doesn't sound like it's a
sliding-yoke single-piston design...

Here's a picture.

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html

Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool.
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SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:


OK, so you can get a G-clamp onto the piston.

It's just down to "Will the clamp turn it rather than push it?" (Very
unlikely ime of turny-piston calipers) and "Is there anything solid
enough on t'other side...?"

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/NS_Hub_assembly_small.html
Looks like there may well be.

Either way, it's still a bodge.

But not on the P6 Rover...


...the calliper is mounted, via a rather involved mounting/pivot bolt,
to the diff carrier casting and even if one was to unship the calliper
from the car, were one normally has a casting there is nothing more
than a tin cover protecting part of the internal handbrake mechanism.

Partial parts diagram here
http://www.anugraha.org.uk/rover/parts_rear_cal_ipb2.gif , shows the
cover and some of the internal components.