I was going to say tongue-in-cheek that I wouldn't have been surprised
to see replies on the order of "Well, if the business world jumped out
of a 5-story building, would you jump out of a 5-story building too!?".
Lo and behold, I see that my imagination wasn't far from what actually
happened! (Example: "That's primarily because business people don't know
shit about technology.")
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
They are different contexts. When you reply to a business e-mail you
are generally carrying on a conversation with another person or small
group, one that is fairly well-remembered by all the parties involved.
The reader doesn't need the quote except for reference. When you reply to
Usenet you are involved in a discussion with a large group of people,
many of whom are involved in several other discussion threads also.
The reader needs the quote just to establish which particular
discussion the message refers to.
There's a simple reason for that. Email can reasonably presume the
recipient is familiar with the previous content. Not so with news messages.
Incidentally even with email, a complex mail is often best responded to
using the inline method ( the best of all ) .
All squares are rectangles. Your reply - no they aren't, that is only
because squares come when you buy one. What the hell does that mean?
Grab your dictionary off the shelf, if you have one, and try finding
the word logic in it. Come back when you understand what it means.
Why? E-Mail, which is what I assume you mean, is not the same thing
as Usenet, which is what I assume you mean. E-Mail uses SMTP over
TCP/IP, while Usenet uses NNTP over TCP/IP. They have nothing in
common, other than the fact that they both use words, just like Word,
Excel, Adobe, Firefox, SAP, and a host of other programs.
Your considerable experience in using shitty software notwithstanding,
other people really do know more than you.
It doesn't change the fact that it makes it more difficult to establish
context. When I correspond by email, I do it the same way I post to
usenet (trim irrelavent text and type right below what I'm responding
to). Sometimes I go as far as reformatting an email to look more like a
usenet post (using an external editor like gvim makes it really easy).
That's very good of you.
No doubt you drive your correspondents nuts by deleting parts of the
correspondence and fiddling everything else. Aside from anything else, it
could be considered midly rude. If you think you could apply that to usenet
my response is this is not a business conversation on which anything
At 'worst' I might be seeking information which I don't get because somebody
who has this info does not reply because he/she hates top-posters. I
postulate that that such people are rare.
Hang loose, maaaan.
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
"Arif Khokar" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
No, it doesn't affect them in the least. My messages are much easier
read because they are much shorter than the original and are right to
Perhaps you're not capable of determining the pertinant parts of a
message. That's your problem, not mine.
FYI, you've already been killfiled in my regular newsreader. I only
happened to see your out of context response because I'm posting
That problem can be easily solved at your end. All you need to do is
find the relevant text and start typing below there. Top posting is
like interrupting a conversation and saying what you want to say
regardless of context. Then people who were listening lose track of
what was going on.
On 4 Feb 2006 08:35:20 -0800, "Arif Khokar"
well, arif, you are just a really nice and proper person. i would
like to tell you how impressed that makes me. but i can't because i
don't want to lie to you.
good day there mate.
thank you graham, err pooh bear. i wish that i could return the favor
but then............ well.....you know.
i certainly do appreciate that i have had an imact upon you and arif.
you see, it is the small things that make life worth while.
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