i want to be able to load up the entire family and head out into the mountains for ATV/RUV/MX riding weekends. my goal is to get a camper and since we'll be taking 2 ATVs and 4 dirt bikes we need to tow my 18' enclosed trailer
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, which limits us to a slide in type camper. ive been looking at a few different models and brands and the only ones that appear big enough for all of us are the slide in's with overhang over the rear bumper. i dont know much about these setups and how they work in relation to trailer towing. my trailer is 3000 pounds empty. add the ATV/RUV/MX and gear and im looking at somewhere around 6000 pounds with probably 600 pounds of tongue weight. i have the stock class IV hitch on my tow rig
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and i dont know if it could safely support 600 pounds of tongue weight on a 3 or 4 foot hitch extension. any knowledgeable advice on this would be greatly appreciated. are there any other concerns i should be aware of? any reason why i should be concerned about hauling a 3500 pound camper in the back of the truck while simultaneously towing up to 10,000 pounds? any camper specific recommendations? how about a good camper dealer?thanks,
What your drive-train / suspension "sees" is a combination load, camper and all your supplies for the duration plus the the tongue load. That's all your food, water, clothes, bedding, and any other "necessities" and then add the weight of the slide-in plus the tongue weight of the trailer.
Combined, it's very easy to overload the truck and not realize it. Think back when I moved from CO to UT. I ended up with a load that was 1K lbs over the axle gross rating after I dumped all the stuff I could and some I couldn't. I should have rented a U-haul truck, not a trailer, and towed the D-150
My suggestion: get a good, used motorhome. You would have more room and still be able tow your trailers . . just not to the off-road campsites.
Around here, a lot of off-road vehicles are towed in with ordinary motorhomes ( if you call 50 footers "ordinary"), which get parked near the area of activity, then the ATV, jeeps, whatever, are unloaded.
a motorhome would be incapable of accessing the places we go. if i didnt have a winch on the front of my truck i wouldnt even try getting there that way.
Then you have a problem, my friend, and it beyond my experience.
That size slide-in will definitely raise the center of gravity of your truck making a bad situation much worse. Not too many years back, according to some locals, a tourist tried to winch his slide-in rig to a spot in the slickrock area and the resulting accident left him in his family in the hospital for a month.
Will that happen to you? I don't know, I'm just asking you to be careful, please
I have a extended cab, long box, 1 ton, ctd with a slide in camper. When the fuel tank, h2o tank are full, groceries, clothes, golf clubs, the case of beer etc and the 2 of us in the cab, we are 200 pounds under the gvw
if you're going into country that rough, you will be tipping the whole thing over (can you say center of gravity) and losing the trailer down the hill when the hitch breaks off. Other than that, you'll probably have a good day.
I agree with using the toy hauler trailers. They also make an ATV rack that goes above the truck bed that will hold 2 ATV's and you can still use the bed for other stuff.
You could take up marbles as a hobby. They take up very little space and the money you save on all this other stuff would pay for hotel rooms until the second coming.
How about a toy hauler trailer with a camper in the front. I see them all the time. A 4 foot touge with a 500lb tongue with a 500 lbs weight on it will not play well.
I also recommend the toy hauler option. I don't have one, but the ones that I've seen at the RV shows were impressive. Once you move the ATV's or bikes out of the trailer, the beds either fold down from the walls, or crank down from the ceiling. The crank down ones can be lowered partway, leaving the ATV's inside if you prefer (Although your ATV is pretty high with the roll bar, so that option probably wouldn't work and you'd have to park them outside if you wanted to use the extra bed). Any overflow (extra bikes) could be carried in the truck bed.
people go through that area all the time with setups like im describing. we arent talking about rock crawling trails, just trails too rough to get a motorhome through. 4 wheel drive is mandatory.
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Well everyone...here's my take on this sitation. Nathan really doesn't want anyones recomendation, he has already made his mind up and no common sense from the peanut gallery is going to change his mind.
Nathan, quit wasting bandwith and simply buy what ever rig you have decided on. Good luck.
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