Keep in mind that I am one of this places elders. I can remember back when I
went to college and students openly carried guns. One physics class the project
was to calculate the speed of a bullet. To do this a wood 6x6 was hung by two
strings from the ceiling and a line with a piece of paper was strung along the
6x6. By measuring the distance the paper was moved one could calculate how much
the 6x6 was raised, etc. In the previous class the professor asked if anyone
would bring in a gun along with extra ammo so we could weigh the projectiles
for the experiment. One student ageed and we fired the gun into the 6x6, a 38 I
believe, inside the class room! It made one hell of a noise but I can't
remember anyone even coming to the door to see what was going on.
My point is back when it was easy to pack shit like what happened today just
No flame at all from here. It's legal in the state of Virginia to carry a
concealed weapon at VT (as long as you have a concealed carry permit, of
course). It's VT policy, however, that anyone found doing so will be
expelled. "You don't need a gun on campus - you're safe here", they said.
"If anyone ever needs the police, just use the call boxes around campus".
Had even a few students been allowed to protect themselves, and by extension
others around them, this tragedy would have been minimized.
VT's staff and policies are the reason over 30 people were killed....
first, they prohibit their student body from having the ability to defend
themselves, stating that they can protect them better, then they fail to
follow through on that protection.
He was clearly a criminal because he was in possession of 2 handguns with
the serial numbers removed. If members of the student body or faculty had
been armed and trained in the proper use of firearms and when it's
appropriate to use one then the death toll could have been much lower.
its VERY encouraging to find this repeated over and over every place i read.
its encouraging to see that the importance of carry is brought into the
open....although its a shame it took a tragedy such as this to put it in the
Nathan in Montana
On Apr 16, 6:01�pm, firstname.lastname@example.org (beekeep) wrote:
we ask that you be with these families, come into their
hearts tonight, be with them, let them feel your presence.
We pray God, that those who have fallen come unto you
and your mercy be shown.
in the name of our Lord,Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that be the same God. Just because people believe in God, it does not
exempt them from bad things or death. It just has to do with what happens
to them after death.
When men stand by and allow these things to happen because of liberal
legislation, civil rights, constitutional nomenclature, gaping loopholes,
and just plain permissive attitudes, where in the world does a God figure
enter the picture who's supposed to keep everything fair and make everything
BTW, I saw a lot of cops standing around for a lot of time yesterday, too.
Would that be the same god that stood by and allowed this to happen?
Most people do not understand why God permits wickedness and so blame him
for all the bad things that take place. They do not realize that man's
inclination toward badness is not because of God's will but because of the
sin of Adam. (see Rom. 5:12) They may be unaware of the existence of Satan
the Devil and of his influence on world affairs, so they ascribe to God the
vile things perpetrated by Satan. (see 1 John 5:19; Rev. 12:12) If they are
to some extent aware of these things, they may feel that God is slow about
taking action, because they do not see clearly the issue of universal
sovereignty and do not grasp the fact that God's patience down till this
time affords them an undeserved opportunity for salvation. (see Rom. 2:4; 2
Pet. 3:9) Also, they do not fully realize that God has a set time when he
will destroy forever all who practice wickedness.-see Rev. 22:10-12; 11:18;
If someone else committed a crime, how would you feel if you were blamed for
it? You would consider this very unjust. Justice requires that the guilty be
punished and the innocent be freed from blame. If an automobile driver
ignores a stop sign at a busy intersection and gets into a bad accident as a
result, it is not the fault of the law. If a person becomes a glutton and
gets sick from overeating, it is not the fault of the farmer who grew the
food. Then why should the heavenly Father, God, be blamed when mankind
commits wrongs? Should not the blame be put where it belongs-on the guilty
Also, there is something else to consider. If we blame God for such things
as starvation from food shortages, whom do we credit for the productive
fields and orchards that produce such bountiful crops in many lands? If we
blame God for sickness, whom do we credit for the body's marvelous healing
systems? If we blame God for city slums, whom do we credit for majestic
mountains, clear lakes, delightful flowers and beautiful trees? Clearly, if
we blame God for the world's troubles and then credit him for the good
things of the earth, it is a contradiction. A loving God would not promote
both good and bad at the same time.
Who, then, is to blame for the terrible things that have happened to the
human family? Much of the blame must rest on people themselves. Human
dishonesty and frustration cause crimes. Human pride and selfishness cause
wrecked marriages, hatreds and racial prejudices. Human error and unconcern
cause pollution and filth. Human arrogance and stupidity cause wars; and
when entire nations blindly follow political leaders into those wars, then
they must share the blame for the suffering. Hunger and poverty are
primarily due to human neglect and greed. Consider: the world now spends
well over $200 billion each year on armaments. If all of this were properly
spent on growing and equally distributing food and eliminating poor housing,
think what could be done!
No, God is not to blame for the wrongs that humans themselves commit. And he
is not to blame for the wrongs blessed by clergymen who claim to serve God
but who do not speak the truth or practice it. Well, then, was there
something wrong with the way God made mankind? Did he give the human race a
Many people think that the answer to that question is yes. 'If God cared,'
they reason, 'would not the world be a very different place?' We look around
and see a world full of war, hatred, and misery. And as individuals, we get
sick, we suffer, we lose loved ones in death. Thus, many say, 'If God cared
about us and our problems, would he not prevent such things from happening?'
Worse yet, religious teachers sometimes lead people to think that God is
hardhearted. How so? When tragedy strikes, they say that it is God's will.
In effect, such teachers blame God for the bad things that happen. Is that
the truth about God? What does the Bible really teach? James 1:13 answers:
"When under trial, let no one say: 'I am being tried by God.' For with evil
things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone." So God is never
the source of the wickedness you see in the world around you. (see Job
34:10-12) Granted, he does allow bad things to happen. But there is a big
difference between allowing something to happen and causing it.
For example, think about a wise and loving father with a grown son who is
still living at home with his parents. When the son becomes rebellious and
decides to leave home, his father does not stop him. The son pursues a bad
way of life and gets into trouble. Is the father the cause of his son's
problems? No. (see Luke 15:11-13) Similarly, God has not stopped humans when
they have chosen to pursue a bad course, but he is not the cause of the
problems that have resulted. Surely, then, it would be unfair to blame God
for all the troubles of mankind.
God has good reasons for allowing mankind to follow a bad course. As our
wise and powerful Creator, he does not have to explain his reasons to us.
Out of love, however, God does this. Rest assured that God is not
responsible for the problems we face. On the contrary, he gives us the only
hope for a solution!-see Isaiah 33:2.
Furthermore, God is holy. (see Isaiah 6:3) This means that he is pure and
clean. There is no trace of badness in him. So we can trust him completely.
That is more than we can say for humans, who sometimes become corrupt. Even
the most honest human in authority often does not have the power to undo the
damage that bad people do. But God is all-powerful. He can and will undo all
the effects that wickedness has had on mankind. When God acts, he will do so
in a way that will end evil forever!-see Psalm 37:9-11.
Yep. The same one that watches as children are run over by cars, tortured
and starved to death by evil parents, and who allows all bad things to
God is no respecter of man, it says in the Bible. And if you believe in
Him, you will have everlasting life. And if you don't, then you just go to
Hell and listen to endless speeches by Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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