guns on campus

.....i think ill control my own, thanks.

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Nathan In Montana
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The armor is purely defensive. I'm not at increased risk if the class clowns sitting behind me wear it. If they're carrying guns, though, they affect me, and without my consent. Maybe I'd be safer, maybe not, but why should they impose their decision on me?

It isn't totally unrelated. It's an example of people following the reactions of others around them. Rather than hunt for statistics, I'll just agree that it's improbable. Improbable things will happen.

I mean every campus police officer.

Cho Seung Hui's gun would have been just as likely to BSOD as anyone else's.

Perhaps with RFID chips in them, guns could be scanned for their identity and remotely turned off.

Reply to
Beryl

As do I. For my son's 21st birthday present I paid the fee for his class and will also pay his permit fees.

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NapalmHeart

Hey, I do happen to own a .454 Casull (Taurus Raging Bull). No deficiencies here! ;^)

There are a couple of more powerful rounds than the .454 on the market. The .460 S&W and the .500 S&W. The penile impaired have moved on to those. ;^)

I find the .454 to be fine for deer hunting and I can use .45 Colt as a less powerful alternative if so desired.

Ken

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NapalmHeart

Your consent? Your consent isn't needed for someone to avail themselves of their rights. Unless you're from one of the few states that refuses to recognize these rights, you've been in close proximity to more people than you know with a concealed weapon - and none of them needed your "consent" to do so.

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Tom Lawrence

Then the VT gunman, who purchased his gun legally, was exercising his right to bring his gun on campus. Got it.

Rights granted by states, and the U.S. Constitution, are two different animals. Unless the Constitution says otherwise, I guess your redneck state gov't can do whatever it wants. I live in a blue state.

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Beryl

Yes, his purchase was legal. His concealed carry of same was NOT legal, as he did not possess a Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit.

Correct. States should not be allowed to deprive citizens of rights guaranteed them by the USC. Most states recognize this basic concept. Sadly, a few do not.

My redneck state.... now that's funny. You are aware that I live in New Jersey (as I've posted here in this thread numerous times).... a state with some of the strictest gun control laws in the country, and some of the highest murder rates per capita of that same country (I know, I can't figure it out either)?

Which one?

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Tom Lawrence

Better than fantasizing the banning guns would end violence. Is saving the lifes of inocent people that far removed from you mind?

What right? I see post after post of made up shit by you. Clearly you're not firing on all cylinders, if any.

This Beryl guy lives in lala land. No wonder he came to Snomans defence... Looks like alt.autos.dodge.trucks has a new toy to play with. Try not to break it to fast.

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Heatwave

Heatwiff:

That's what thedumbguy was saying about azpunkinmash a month ago. Exactly!

"i have this idea that he's gonna be even better now that he has a new toy to play with." - thedumbguy

But little punkin never could control his emotions. He's so fragile. thedumbguy never did much, mostly sat on the sidelines making little squeaky sounds. And look at Skippy now, fizzled again.

Noboby seemed to have much fun playing.

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Beryl

Kalifornia

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Beryl

Plenty of counties in your state issue CCW permits. Do the county sheriff's call you for each one to get your "consent"?

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Tom Lawrence

When I was looking into a permit several years ago I found that plenty of counties do, but you need to get a permit from each incorporated city in the county through which you plan to carry, even if you're driving through on the interstate. The only way to legally transport a gun in California without a permit is unloaded, in a locked case, not within reach of any of the vehicles occupants and the ammunition not within the same locked case.

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Ed H.

I live in Las Vegas. It is a big megalopolis now, with cities that border on each other. I am a permitee in Nevada, Utah, and Florida. That allows me to carry in about 39 states.

However, even here where I live, the laws are different in North Las Vegas, Henderson, and Boulder City. Every one has its own laws regarding concealed carry, and they supercede the state law and the regulations under which the local LVMPD issued the permit.

So, at times even if you are permitted, you can be in violation of lots of local laws as you drive from town to town and county to county. It is impossible to know all the laws of all the places you go to at times, such as traveling.

Steve

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Steve B

that is not a good idea at all. in my state, a local jursdiction can give you more rights than state law, but can not restrict you more than state law.

i was in parhump nevada a year or two ago for a bit. it seemed that anyone could pretty much do whatever they wanted to there with guns. i loved the guy running for sheriff that drove around town with two cowboy guns on his hips.

i did love the country too. we only had to drive about a mile to find a safe place to shoot. wide open country. very pretty.

spent some time in north las vegas when i was training out on the nevada test site. north las vegas just didn't appeal to me.

my trips into las vegas also left me unimpressed. my wife liked it because she loves to shop and obviously they have a lot of places to do that. she also liked the local architecture. but for me, vegas was a bust. i have to admit, i liked parhump. very isolated.

i was trying to think of some way to say "tard" in my post, but it just didn't work out, but then i think i just did it anyway.

sorry. :)

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theguy

Actually Steve, it is not "impossible" though I will admit it is pretty damn hard. I had a link to a website that gave ALL the states laws on hand gun carry. I found it because of the very reason you cited, travel. I used to drive from AZ to NY annually and wanted to be able to have the pistol with me, but found that once I crossed into NY, I was screwed as if you don't have a permit, you can not even transport. I would be happy to find that site for you if you like.

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azwiley1

I think if one doesn't know the laws of the area they're traveling then they shouldn't travel there, or pack differently. Theres always a few people that fail to do a little research and take their guns to Mexico for instance. Bad mistake if you get caught!

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miles

Man I would rather take it to NY with me and advertise that I have it then go into Mx with even one live round in the vehicle (no weapon) and be caught.

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azwiley1

I believe you can take a gun to Mexico if you plan to hunt but have to file for a permit, inspection etc. When I have traveled through Mexico I have been stopped at remote roadblocks and asked if I had weapons etc. From what I understand the locals there love these roadblocks around their cities as they did cut violent crimes. Rough way to cut it though. I've never had trouble at these roadblocks and traveled through with ease but they are intimidating, mostly rifle toting military guys. Strange place but I have to travel there as my folks retired in Mexico.

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miles

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Tom Lawrence

Laws change daily, and state laws do not reflect county or municipal laws. I believe it would be impossible to compile the rules because by the time you're done, they've changed.

So, if you take off on a trip in your motorhome, you should know in advance the laws in every city, town, county, and state you're going to be in? No one has that much brain space.

Steve

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Steve B

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