He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

So you do advocate the physical destruction of all that are not like yourself.

And you claim I'm the bad guy?

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Budd Cochran
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Damn... no heated seats for you, Tom..

Mac

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mac davis

OBVIOUSLY, or IN YOUR OPPINION?

Maybe he just thinks you're a pain, Budd...

IMHO, people that don't want to be labeled should stay away from label machines.. YMWV

I get folks telling me all the time that they really don't give a shit about my OT baja posts... Life is way too short to take it personally and feel like it's a personal attack or hate crime..

Mac

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mac davis

You've probably just committed a hate crime and will be investigated, bro...

Personally, I always thought that might have been reported to the SPCA as cruelty to lions.. Mac

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mac davis

Budd... I have no idea why I'm doing this, since a wall has more chance of considering options, but what the hell:

If someone tells me that I'm ann asshole because I argue religion, they're telling me WHY they think I'm an asshole...

If someone comes into my place of worship and tells me that I can't practice my beliefs, they're getting into a religious issue and MIGHT be guilty of persecution..

For an example, if someone tells you that you shouldn't talk about your Cushman Scooter in a Dodge group, I don't think you'd have much of a case for scooter persecution...

Mac

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mac davis

I'll be naming you in my lawsuit, as well. If that wasn't one of the most hate-filled, anti-vegetarian posts I've ever been subjected to... and on TOP of that, you dare to try and deny me my Constitutional Right to a warm backside. You have just committed a federal offense, and will soon be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (the law being whatever I dream up in my own head). Best to get your affairs in order now.

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Tom Lawrence

The hell he doesn't!!! If he is out for a ride on it and has a religious thought then by pure linkage it is persecution. 'Cmon bro, ya gotta think like'em. Now, I don't know what that says for my mental state but...

Roy

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Roy

Mac,

We've discussed things before and without animosity. Of that I am proud and I hope we will always be friends. We've even shared a few common interests besides Dodges.

I am trying to let this thread die because I'd rather discuss Dodges anyway.

But do look up what "persecution" entails. It comes in many forms, and as with insults, is generally determined by the recipient, not the speaker/writer, unless the objective of the statement is a deliberate and obvious insult / persecution.

I was raised and schooled to understand that calling someone a name is a deliberate act of intended insult or persecution and is where the writer exceeds his right to freedom of speech.

Budd

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Budd Cochran

I really tried to take the high road here but you just won't let me. You keep bringing my name up in this and now seem to be putting the blame for all of it on me and theguy.

tresspass...

The point is that even if this were true, hate in itself is not a crime. If he did something to you or even threatened you based on that hate then it could be a hate crime but telling someone to shut up is not a crime and if it is not a crime, it cannot be a hate crime.

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You keep making these claims that you are correcting errors but the real question is who is bringing it up in the first place and what gives you the ultimate knowledge to correct anyone?

Nobody needs to prove anything as you have just done so yourself by admitting to it. You, as usual, backed up your actions with your claimed religion and then took bible quotes out of context to back up your childish reactions and hateful responses. When people called you on this (your bible rewriting), you then started your extremist crap and stormed out of the NG in a big huff because everyone didn't agree with you and now claim it as nothing more than correcting others and being picked on for it. The problem with that is the assumption that you are correct in everything that you claim and say and when it comes to religion, nobody can make that claim. If you also bother to recall, once the religious crap got started, I bailed out of the thread as it became a no-win situation so blaming me for it is nothing more than a false accusation. Perhaps you are the one committing a hate crime against me.

Once again, false accusations and complete bullshit. Even if you consider us bullies for doing the very same thing you have done to others, there was no crime of any kind committed.

And that would be your bias claiming that everyone has gone more overboard than you but the proof is in the pudding and the fact that EVERYONE is saying that lately you are the one going overboard say's it all.

Hahahahahahaha, could you possibly be any more ignorant. Please tell us how someone being killed or their property being damaged equates in any possible way to being told to shut up?

The problem is that hurting your feelings does not make something a crime.

a assault/battery/maiming/murder

You are kidding.... right???? Stalking, abuse, some forms of harrassment and assault/battery/maiming/murder are all actual crimes whether based on haterd or not. Please give us the exact law that makes telling someone to shut up a crime and as Tom clearly said, if it is not a crime by itself, it cannot be a hate crime.

And nobody is trying to stop you but falsely accusing others does not demonstrate the religious beliefs you claim to have and follow.

The problem here Budd is that nobody sees your point. Perhaps that should tell you something.

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TBone

Tom, I understand that everyone has their own way of dealing with situations. I found it easier to killfile the bs. I sorta figured that after once going to the well for the same bad water was enough. Also replying sorta legitimized the bs. ymmv

Roy

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Roy

Well, gee . . I mentioned I was forgoing a past actitvity because of trying to get closer to my God, refused to fall into the profanity and name calling you two prefer, for which you began denegrating me and my beliefs and now you don't want the responsibility for what you wrote.

How typically liberal of you.

Funny how many liberal laws are on the books these days just to prosecute anyone that commits a crime based on hatred . . . . .and then you calim it's not a crime. Hmm, maybe the laws only apply to conservatives.

Well, gee whiz, Tom, if I'm CORRECTING SOMEONE ELSE then I didn't post the religious stuff first. GOT IT YET?????

Btw, the King James Version of the Holy Bible is my reference book, but you knew that . . .or have you forgotten?

Ah, twist and spin and avoid the truth. I only admitted to POSTING A CORRECTION AFTER SOMEONE ELSE POSTED THE ORIGIANL MISQUOPTE OR MISINTERPRETATION.

Out of context according to what religion, Bonini? Not according to the text in th Bible itself.

No, I called them like I saw them. I still do and always will. You are a communistic liberal socialist

I don't claim perfection, but the Bible is more accurate than you want to accept.

Nope, you didn't bail until recently and now your back. Btw, calling you what I have called you is based on your own words and actions.

There you go, calling a person a bully that posts a correction to a previously posted error. SPIN, SPIN.

Gee, that means that everyone that has ever told you where you were wrong about a mechanical item or repair is a bully.

Funny, I'm pretty certain there are a bunch that have not posted on the matter. The only ones I have a "problem" with are those that, like you, claim to be so darn tolerant, until a Christian follows his God.

Oh, Tom, we're still waiting for you to answer about 2000 questions already... but according to your precious liberal laws; a hate crime is a hate crime.

Funny how it is when it's you that gets "hurt... as in someone posting your entire name and don't give us that whiney stuff abut the person commiting the hate crime against you... unless you just want to show your hipocrisy.

So . . . .you're saying someone can stalk, abuse, harrass, maim, murder because of love? What a terrible, inhuman set of values to have.

Gee, Tom, I call them as I see them and I'm accused of false witness? You, otoh, accuse me of corrupted religiosity, corrupting scriptures, called me vulgar names, cast aspersions on my lineage, gender, and sexual preferences and you think you are not being a false witness?

In your eyes, if you follow the God of the Bible, you're evil, but if you do evil to others, you're not evil. Yep, that's communistic liberalism. Oh, and it was predicted that you, and others, would have that opinion nearly two thousand years ago.

Yeah, it does, but not that "nobody sees your point". I see that not everyone has commented one way or another. However, the thing you need to see is that not everyone sees you as their spokesperson, so you are probably wrong . .again.

I speak only for myself and my beliefs as always.

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Budd Cochran

Roy, the "legitimacy" of what I write isn't determined by you, Bonini, or anyone. The Bible is my final authority.

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Budd Cochran

ah yes, and in that you fail miserably.

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theguy

With regards to religion, there is no correct. There is my view, your view and everyone elses view. Each decides for themselves what is correct and what the best way for them to live their lives. Nobody needs or wants your correcting any more than you do not want them to correct you. Being respectful of others beliefs is how to get out of the mess we're currently in.

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miles

Really Budd, care to back any of this up? Of course you don't, you never have so why start now.

How typically full of it of you.

LOL, you really don't have a clue even though you just said it yourself. A CRIME based on hatred and by your very own statement, if it is not already a CRIME, it cannot be a hate CRIME!!!

No, because you DID post it first. Who else in the group would be spouting that religious stuff but you?

Sure I have and it sadly happens to be the most mis-quoted book of all times. Just look at the likes of Jimmy Swaggert, Robert Tilton, the Bakers and so many other fly by night TV evangelists that got rich using that very book.

And who was the one who did it and what exactly did they post? The answer to who is you.

And when using properly configured quotes from the Bible, the TV evangelists mentioned above got suckers to believe that giving them thousands of dollars that they did not have or could not afford to give would have the lord supply them with riches beyond their wildest dreams. How many times did that actually happen?

I must admit Budd, I do like talking to you, your ignorance makes me laugh.

Now that really depends on who is reading and interpreting it and sorry budd, but what you claim is not backed up by the way you act.

Really???? Care to back that on up either???? Perhaps you should Google it and see the truth. Once you started your religious crap, the only thing I said was that the public school system should not teach any religion at all. That is up to the families to decide what religion if any and the churches of the chosen religion to teach it.

Once again, you are living in the land of denial and you really need to work on that reading comprehension. I was not talking about this last load of crap you got yourself into. I am talking about the way you have been in general for years, especially toward newbie's. The only one spinning here now is you.

Actually Budd, that is what you are accusing us of, LOL!!!

And once again, that would be the denial you live in and your own personal bias. Who are all of these magical invisable people that are in complete agreement with you. Hell Budd, even a lurker appeared (and at your request) to tell you what an idiot you are making out of yourself and even then, you stick your head in the sand and deny it.

Who exactly is "we" Budd and what questions are you talking about or is this just spin to stop from looking like a complete idiot??? Sorry Budd, but it's way to late for that. You made the comparison above now back it up or do us all a favor and shut up.

I have to say Budd, you are really a crackpot. There is a big difference between identity theft and being told to shut up and if you are really this stupid....

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How are they my values and yes, these things have been done for love as well as no real feelings at all. Not all crimes are hate crimes and not all hate is a crime.

That is correct because you bias is so strong, it distorts reality for you.

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Just more false accusations but if you care to back them up......

More complete crap and bible verse twisting. There is a big difference between actually believing in the bible and just making the claim that you do and no matter what you say, your actions do not back up your claimed belief.

I never claimed to be "everyone's" spokesperson but with what I have read from many others in this NG (and many of them from your friends), I can say that I am for the most part on the same page as they are right now. You can stay in denial if you wish but in reality, it just makes you look even more foolish.

The sad thing here Budd is that you only listen to yourself as well which really does make you look like an idiot. Roy was right, there is no reasoning with you so reply is you wish, I don't care and am done with you in this thread.

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TBone

Once again Roy, you seem to be correct. His reply made it clear what a waste of time it is to talk to him. I sadly replied once more but this will be the last of it and even though I will not kill file him, I will follow your lead and just ignore him.

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TBone

Do I? You don't bear any fruit ( give indication) that shows you've ever opened a Bible. At least I am trying to live according to a better set of values than what you represent.

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Budd Cochran

Miles, that is your opinion and not what the Bible teaches. There are not many roads to Heaven.

And what about respect for my beliefs? You, and others, insist I respect your beliefs, but damn mine. I'm not the one wanting it both ways. I'm wanting equality to believe as I do, JUST LIKE YOU.

As for correcting misquotes, misinterpretations, well, again, the Bible tells me in 1st Peter to be ready to answer any questions or in any situation and, elsewhere, to defend the Scriptures. That means to correct inaccuracies and misinterpretations.

Besides, would you expect a Roto-Rooter operator to do brain surgery? Apparently, no other Christians in this group care enough to step forward to give corrections. I sure wouldn't believe anything T-bone or theguy have to say on the matter.

Budd

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Budd Cochran

I need a special "not quite kill" file.... maybe one labeled "doesn't play well with others"??

Mac

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mac davis

Cool.... focus on the word MY in that sentence, Budd...

My final authority, if I was self centered enough to have one, might be a different final authority than yours... doesn't make either one wrong..

It is your belief that the bible is "the way"... others might follow the Easter bunny or the Transcendental Goddamit... freedom is a wonderful thing.... Mac

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