OT Sold It!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell ya what Roy. Bash the Reps and Bush all ya want. I may agree with ya on many points and would not take it personal because it wouldn't be....except you made it such.

Okay.

Ya gotta deal with reality, bro...

I tend to ignore any thread that has alternating Miles/Tbone posts, but saw you posting and read a bit..

I've found that whatever the topic starts at, it becomes Miles and Tbone pissing on each other's feet..

Just because some folks never out grew the high school locker room, you don't have to go there any more... School's over..

mac

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You are correct bro. I kf'd bone some time ago, grew tired of scrolling through a thread to find the same bs, so all I was seeing was miles, who imo posts some intersesting stuff most of the time. It is what it is I guess.

Roy

Now thats downright funny! This forum has been a pissing contest room for you and most everyone else for many years. About the same on most male dominated automotive forums! Ya, play the innocent one! lol.

But some grow up and move on......

Denny

Hmm...most here have been here for years and it's all the same. Once in awhile some newbies come in and complain about the pissing contests and is called a net nanny. I find it ironic that some will whine about one contest only to start or join another. Ya, it's always others! lol

Check the archives, Miles... I don't think you'll find any thread that was an argument that I was in for long.. I leave shit like that to the experts..

mac

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While the rising price of oil is one of the biggest problems, it is further increased by falling home values and stagnent income levels.

LOL, damn Miles, does everything need to be political bullshit with you? Things ARE bad and it is not just Democrats that see it. My right wing sister sees it as do many of my right wing friends. The price of oil sets new records every week (increasing living costs), housing values continue to fall (reducing net worth), salaries are for the most part stagnant (reduced disposable income). You can keep your head in the sand if you wish as that doesn't change the truth. As for that article, it is nothing more than wishful thinking. I watch CNBC when I can and they tend to do the same thing. If there is the slightest uptick, they make the claim that everything is ok and when it goes down, they come up with some bullshit excuse as to why. They are not doing that so much anymore as there reputation and credibility is coming into question. Even they depend on viewers to make money and when too many think that they are full of shit, dollars slip.

WTF are you talking about Miles??? What exactly is your definition of subprime??? Sorry Miles, but there is a big difference between high risk and poor credit and they do not always go hand in hand.

Once again, what you say makes no sense. If what you say is true, then there could never be a building boom as there would never be enough workers. If the field workers "move with it" as you say, why are they standing on the street looking for work? Why didn't they just move to the next area like you claim that they do?

And this means what? Oh yea, not a dam thing. Just because they are the most accurate given does not mean that they actually are accurate or even close.

Which again means nothing. Actually, I am wrong here. Since you have claimed that the accuracy is beyond either of our ability to know, they are worse than meaningless as they can actually be purposely misleading us.

LOL, inflation is high compared to increases in income.

LOL, it was a housing bubble and the economy was far from booming. If the economy was so great, his approval rating would not be the disaster that it is.

LOL.

More complete crap. The dollar value is only a small portion of the problem. If salaries remain consistant and inflation increases, then you have stagflation, even if the economy has a microscopic level of growth.

Reports are for the most part complete bullshit. Try opening your eyes and see what is happening rather than making your assinine assumptions.

I'm sure that to some degree they are.

Yawn, back to the political BS again.

How exactly are they one of the most biased there is? Perhaps because they don't agree with your extreme right wing ideas. The fact that they don't report much right wing stories actually shows there attempt to reduce bias. When things are both good and bad according to their beliefs (and bias), they report it but unlike Fox, they do not attribute all good to one side and all bad to the other. Sure, they do bash Bush every now and then but the man is an idiot and will go down as one of our worst presidents and ranks right up there with Carter in how bad of a job he did.

LOL, you really do like to spin. How exactly can you have such high growth and at the same time, be one of the highest in property value declines as reported on MSNBC yesterday? My thinks you are full of shit. Perhaps Miles, you are having a hard time finding people is because you have a bad reputation. Good recruters and networks know and talk about the compensation and working conditions of companies in a given area and the skilled workers that you are looking for talk to and are part of these organizations, espesially the ones moving into a new area.

LOL, just about any of them Miles and it is simply just common sense. They get unemployment insurance reports every day. Sure, the gubberment knows that unemployment claims are no longer accurate and claim to be moving to other methods like you claim they use but those methods take time and are also not all that accurate. While they may attempt to make corrections from surveys that they send out, the primary daily adjustment comes from unemployment claims and probably always will.

Sadly, much of the problem is not comming from speculation.

well miles has no special rights to that claim. neither one of you two make a bit of sense. if you two enjoy this sophomoric crap, you are idiots.......as in truly brainless. if you actually think that you are having an argument that is, by any definition, intelligent, then you are both idiots.......as in morons.

that's all im sayin.

Oil prices are not affected by home values at all. Stagnant income levels do not have an effect on oil prices either.