Removing transmission

Nope, but if I was I would probably have seen what else you unknowingly did besides bleeding to "fix" the problem.

Look back on this forum to the gent who experienced late upshifts after a simple band adjustment. Those of us who understand transmission function realize that bands don't have anything to do with the road speed at which upshifts occur. The respondent correctly opined that, in the process of band adjustment, the TV cable adjustment must have been altered.

Just like in your anecdotal account, it's as easy to suspect the band adjustment was the culprit as your suspicion that entrapped air was the sole problem.

Gee, John, just call me a liar and get it over with, you'll feel much more superior that way.

-- Budd Cochran

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Would you? Since I was doing a repair on a machine to be used to move equipment weighing up to 10.5 tons into position around my co-workers and friends as the crews installed the equipment, don't you think I would have been quite thorough?

So?

Well, John, you admitted you weren't there, so you couldn't have seen the care I took or the time I spent flushing out the air. Yet you presume to think you know exactly what happened.

Fine. Just call me a liar and kill file me.

-- Budd Cochran

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Liar is a little severe but, judging from past political posts and your signature line, you are inclined to believe fantasies.

Since I don't agree with you politically or religiously, I believe in fantasies???? . . .I could say the same about you.

Nevertheless, you've implied I'm lying and won't come right out and say it.

John, I know what fantasies are, I know what is fact and what is fiction, I know what fixed that forklift and you don't because you were not there.

The fantasy is that you claim you know what was wrong with it without seeing the vehicle.

And the sigline stays because it is not fantasy, it's the good old-fashioned values that this country was founded on.

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boys, boys. come on. starting to sound like romper room in here.

What about my previous statement: "Lemme tell you about the time I fixed a slipping transmission by tightening one lug nut on the left front wheel"?

Find any fault with that claim? Could you pass judgement on the validity of my claim without actually being there?

If you have reason to doubt the validity of the story explain the reason for your doubts.

lol! Instead of admitting you screwed up, you're attempting to lead Budd into the same stupid ass BS you gave out. Now thats some funny stuff right there!

BG> Well, John, you finally make a statement that says exactly what I'm saying. You were not there yet YOU are PASSING JUDGEMENT on what took place.

Simply put, I don't have to question the validitry of you STORY because YOU call it a STORY.

OTOH, I mentioned something the ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO ME ... not a story I made up to insult and ridicule another person.

Now, if you can accept that I can have an experience that doesn't fall inside your parameters, then we can go on, otherwise, you'll continue to insult me.

Let me guess . . .you've never had an item in disrepair become functional and leave you wondering exactly what you did right? If you have, then you know that things don't always follow the rules.

I think just about everyone has had something "fix itself" or become functional without the repair being the "correct" repair.

To me, it's just one of the things that keeps life interesting.

How ya been, Miles?

-- Budd Cochran

It happens sometimes. Other weird things happen to me too. When I've rebuilt an engine I take all the bolts, nuts, washers etc. and fill up several coffee cans. Then I reassemble everything and somehow have a coffee can of unused stuff left over. Dang engine runs fine for years and nothing falls off....weird!! lol

If I had been in your situation I would recognize the fact that the action I performed, by itself, wasn't sufficient to eliminate the root cause.

John, for the last time, you weren't there.

And, furthermore, I am not you.

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As usual, you just see what you want to see, truth be damned.

Complete BULLSHIT on your part. I said that you were wrong and nothing more. All the rest is just part of your imagination or perhaps a defense mechanism to make far more out of it than really exists.

All that shows was that the valve was still moving in the bore, not that it was actually opening as required.

I didn't say that your repair had no effect. If there was an exceptional amount of air in the system (which seems to be the case with your quart of fluid) AND the master cylinder was not allowing for venting (and your ripple with pedal movement does not prove that it was), then your bleed of the air in the system could stop the clutch slippage issue but the problem that allowed the pressure to build up to begin with still existed. The thing Budd, is what got the fluid so damn hot to begin with? Hell, the operator may have been resting his broken foot on the pedal causing the problem and when the clutch began to smoke, lied to you about it. Unless you were riding on the lift with him all of the time, you simply cannot say that it didn't happen that way. I am not saying that it did, just that it is another possibility that you cannot absolutely deny. Another thing to consider is that if the master was functioning properly to begin with, there should not be so much air trapped in the system as some of it would have vented out from gravity alone.

I don't have to figure it out Budd, the design of the system says that it cannot happen that way and if you are positive that it can, EXPLAIN HOW.

LOL, sorry Budd, but it IS a continous controlled explosion.

Then your argument holds no water.

It is NOT a parallel, hell, it is not even close to being one. One is dealing with the violent creation and expansion of gasses and a device at the output amplifying that force for the purpose of propulsion and the other is a slow expansion of gas and liquid for that matter due to heat build-up and a port designed to prevent ANY pressure from building at rest.

LOL, you are joking right??? Not about the reason for the failures but how this in any way compares to a hydraulic clutch.

And you are wrong but if you think different, then explain how.

Hahahahahahahahaha, I must say Budd, you do make me laugh. A rocket builds up pressure because that is what it is designed to do and like I said and you seemed to have ignored, the instant that you cut off the fuel supply and the combustion stops, the pressure rapidly drops to nothing, just like it will in a clutch master cylinder. The vent in a clutch master is designed to prevent expansion pressure buildup, not amplify it for propulsion like a rocket.

Does it make you feel better to accuse people of or believe that people are attacking you even when that is the last thing on their minds? Please give an example where you were wrong on a key point and admitted to it. I am not saying that you never did, just that I can't remember any. Now while I am not saying that you don't believe what you are saying or are lying about what happened with the forklift, what I am saying is that if everything was functioning properly, what you say happened simply could not happen for the reasons that you gave and if you believe different, explain exactly how without the whining about being insulted or attacked.

P R O V E I T !!!!!

Please find the word fear in any of the definitions. It is not my writing that is the problem, it is your PARANOIA causing the problems. BTW, what you wrote above sure does look like a flat out insult to me. So much for your word.

I did no such thing Budd, I said that what you saw simply may not have been what it appeared to be, nothing more.

The only thing funny here is your complete lack of understanding. Where exactly did he screw up Miles and lets see the details.

You mean like in your fork lift example?

Is this a testament to your mechanical ability or the care you take during the operation?