Help me out here with a simple yes or no answer please.
Putting aside how we as a people arrived in the mess we are in. The housing
market, unemployment, 401's, pension plans way down and so on.
Is it your contention that the govt. should have stepped aside, no tarp, no
auto loans and done nothing. No extension of unemployment benefits. Just let
people become homeless.... This is the reality that I'm gathering from this
Suddenly, without warning, Roy exclaimed (11/6/2010 7:05 PM):
In a word: Yes. There's plenty of proof that the government "helping"
actually makes matters worse, extends recessions and creates depressions.
My belief - and this is a free country so you're completely free to
disagree with me - is that, in the end, there are MORE homeless and
unemployed because the government intervenes. If it would stay the heck
out of the free market, the drop might be sharper, but would be shorter
lived, and I believe unemployment numbers would have been improving a
I also believe that we'd not be in the boat we're in now if the
government hadn't forced banks to make loans easy, and make loans to
people that could not afford them. There are other factors, but this
simple fact caused the housing crash, which started the downhill snowball.
If the government stayed the heck out of the free market, we'd never
have had the housing bubble that burst in the first place.
Suddenly, without warning, jmc exclaimed (11/6/2010 7:52 PM):
Oh, and just to reiterate: I would feel the same way even if I had lost
my job, even if I lose my job tomorrow. I am not a hypocrite. Also, it
has not escaped me that you're trying to make me out as evil and
uncaring (I'm not), suggesting that because I believe in small
government and the free market, I want people to be unemployed and homeless.
Oh, and as for the extension of unemployment benefits... actually I
think that given the economic climate, some extension was not a bad
thing. Continually extending benefits though encourages people to
remain unemployed, rather than working harder to find work.
I'm am not tying to make you out as anything, sorry you feel that way.. Just
pointing out the very possible results of your position as I see it..
Surpriseing that you'd bring up evil and uncaring though.
Suddenly, without warning, Roy exclaimed (11/6/2010 8:12 PM):
Actually, they were. When I was unemployed, it was 13 weeks.
Apparently it's now 26 weeks (might vary) states, then was extended onto
federally funded benefits to November 30. It was the second federal
extension that didn't happen.
Can we go back to talking about trucks now? It's almost time for y'all
to start razzing Mike about his heated seats, isn't it?
I'm wondering what's up with him. Red and I have been bustin' his chops for
a couple of day's via email with no response from him. You heard from him of
Figure if nothing in a few day's it will be time for a call. He could be
real busy in the field though, harvest time and all.
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