'92 RS Heritage; cert. of destruction...

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Here it is:
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They said they were going to put some rims and tires on it before they moved it out. Seems like they didn't do it. All I know is they better take care of her while I can't protect her.
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Nice, that looks to be a great project car. A great platform to start from even if it's for a restoration. Keep at it! :)
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now I've got to talk to an inspector here and have him come out and check the car out. If he deems it rebuildable, they could help straighten all the paperwork out with the towing company and try and get them to change the title.
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Wow, I can't believe it. I really think this car was meant for me.
This mourning I got a rude awakening from my smoke detector that's in my room at 10am and seeing how I didn't go to sleep till 4am I really wasn't ready to get up, but I wasn't sure if there really was a fire or not so I got up, got dressed and went outside to find what? Apparently it was only mine that went off. They are all supposed to be linked to each other to set all of them off when one goes off. Or at least I thought. It was a REALLY LOUD noise too. Anyway the firemen came and disabled my alarm and will replace it tomorrow. So an hour later I go eat lunch and then went home for a few more hours waiting for the auto shop to open. I went down to radio shack and bought some wire and alligator clips to make this resistor thing easier. I went back to the auto shop and pulled the car cover off and got my ohmmeter out and started connecting wires, but I realized something wasnt right the last day I worked on it. It had no resistance or voltage going through the wires in off/run or any mode so I starting investigating. The VATS wire that goes from the ignition switch to the connector was smashed under the steering column support (I dont know what its really called, but you know what I mean) by the flared nut. I took it off and behold, broken wire So I went swimming around the area where I thought the other connector would have been. After a while I got up to look at some wiring diagrams to see if they would help (and of course they didnt) and spotted a loose connector on the floorboard. It didnt have the orange outer jacket, but the 2 wires coming out of it were the same gauge and color. But I still didnt know where to connect it to so I went swimming once again. I was almost ready to give up when I spotted it hanging in the background and the connector seem to fit flawlessly and seem to be the only one that could fit. So I went back home and soldered 2 wires to the connector to replace the broken ones and went back out and hooked it all up. I read +5v in all modes. So now I start testing different resistances (I have the 15 for passkey II and their tolerances) and am finally getting the security light when I am wrong. BTW it takes alittle over an hour to try all combos because you have to wait at least 4 minutes between tries or it wont work and there are 15 possibilities. I was working from last to first thinking I would find it faster and I didnt. I was going to try one more before calling it a day because they were closing in 15 minutes. It was the one closest to what I consider to be my lucky number (or numbers). I tried it and got the security light. One thing I found on the VATS that I forgot about is that you have to give it +2 seconds after you put the key to the run position and then the light will go off if its the right resistance so the other combos I tried could have also worked because I didnt try to crank it every time. I was ready to accept failure for the day and then I tried to crank it over for the hell of it and I heard the starter and saw the lights dim.
I now think the reason they left the car behind when they moved is because they had a VATS problem. I could be wrong because there is no way of knowing when this actually occurred unless I can contact the previous owner. It makes perfect sense why they wouldve left it in the condition it was in. Even if the wires werent broken before the salvage yard got a hold of it, I was getting a high resistance reading from the 2 wires which threw me off the other day because I didnt not know what I was supposed to be reading. It looks like something a repair shop would have done more than a person because it is a bright orange wire jacket.
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Good work!
You'll be suprised at the "howdy doodies" you'll find in cars that people do. My 79 Trans Am must have had every bolt in it but the right GM ones. I've spent hours researching the right stuff in the GM assembly manuals I have. Luckily, I have great dealers that will take those original #s and supersede them up to a current # or find the bolts I need under the original #. Either way, I get the right bolt in 99% of the cases. Sometimes GM does a stupid supersession to a generic bolt, but most times, you get something that at least remotely looks like the original.
For the few that were discontinued, I pirated them from junkers and cleaned them up.
My key buzzer wouldn't work, so I got out the shop manual and went to work. This is how you get good at these things. I followed the diagnostic charts in the GM manual and walah, it pointed to a bad buzzer switch. Neighbor and I took it apart and found out the switch looked like it went through WWII, it was mangled. The buzzer motor was also gone. Ordered one from GM (it sounds like a Chevy buzzer more than a Pontiac), got a new buzzer switch from AC Delco through my parts store and problem solved.
I have fixed many "repairs" this car has had with some thinking power and simple TLC... Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going.... '91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
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Yep... did a lot of the same things on my 'Formula... The good ol' DMM... what would we do without them.. lol. But it seriously had just about every electrical prob POSSIBLE!.. Lol. Well... looks like I may be swapping in the 350 and the 305, then selling the '85 with the 305. Not sure about the history of the transmission though... this is a TBI 350 engine.. completely rebuilt.. has receipts. Said he got it from another car. Pics look pretty good. Anyway, trans is a 5/speed.. but with this not being a S/E or T/A.. what are the odds this car came with a 305 stock? Dennis seems to think this is probably a V-6 5/speed... anyway to know for sure? If it is, would it be worth it to swap it with it into the '88... or just keep the Auto?
-Geno 1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L w/T-tops (148k and going... getting worried) 1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L w/T-tops (For sale for $2,200) 1985 Brown Firebird 5.7L w/5-Speed (No T-tops though) Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A w/T-tops for parts from one
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I'm lost as to what you are trying to figure out. A 305 in a 3rd gen F body is ULTRA common. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going.... '91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
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cant believe it. I called the DMV title corrections office (actually it was customer support, but they said they can answer questions) to see what the status was on that letter and stuff I sent into them and they had no idea. Every time they put me on hold, it cut me off after about 5 minutes of waiting. I wasnt getting any help from them and I had to go work a 12hour shift that night so I was feeling a little down. I went and got something to eat, came back and decided to check my mail box to see if I got any bills. I saw a manila envelope and I wasnt sure what it was. Opened it up and sure enough it was a response letter from the DMV!!! Finally!!! The papers and photos look like they went through quite a few people seeing how it had been restapled quite a few times. There's also a letter on in the front basically saying I need to go to court with proof of ownership to make me the legal owner on the vehicle and resubmit the paperwork once thats done. That sounds to me like I could very well be on the way to getting the title back!
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That sounds like it.
They want to make sure it was legally junked and not "disappeared" into someone's unlawful hands.
Neighbor who is a police officer was telling me about the ways that thieves have attempted to wash titles and hide cars over the years. Some of the scams are pretty elaborate....
What is needed to get the car in good order again? I wouldn't touch a screw on it till you legally own it, otherwise it could go for naught.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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Damn good advice Joe. Too many dishounest people have ruined things for the rest of us. Charles
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Well I've already put a hatch and a few major things that were missing on it (only spent $200 on that). I basically need to get the engine rebuilt (might as well, I have it torn apart), but the everything electrical seems to work and I've already found out what the security code is so I can bypass it. I want to upgrade it to the '90-'92 TPI setup, but it's going to cost quite a bit. I have to try and find out if the salvager yard or towing company has the COD (they better because they are supposed to have it in their records for 3 years!) and transfer it over into my name and then I resubmit all the paperwork along with the COD in my name and the letter they sent me.
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DO NOT touch the vehicle until you legally own it---if for some reason you don't get the paperwork and your money is refunded, you'll lose what you put into it! Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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Trust what Joe is saying. I know from Managaing a salvage yard with a inventory of over 1,500 cars what he is talking about! Charles
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Part of the deal was that I can't take it back if this doesn't work out so I'm stuck with it. Worse thing that could happen is that I would have to strip it and sell the parts (I hate thinking that). As of now, things are looking really good as far as getting that title back. In the letter they sent me, they didn't say what will happen after I get it in my name and send in the paperwork (sounds like they are going to grant me a title, but they might need to inspect the car first which shouldn't be a problem).
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MetalDrgn wrote:

I have to agree with the consensus. DO NOT do any work to it till you have good paper. Now some states are easier to get paper in than others if you follow my drift. Or you might buy a trasher with good paper and, oh, I don't know, swap some things around. She is a pretty ride and I must agree, too nice to break up.
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and I have the opertunity to do both thing, but right now I am trying hard to get the legit title back. if that fails I will go through either cali or new york.
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Any update on how this is coming along?
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kinda at a stand still right now. Talked to the main guy at the salvage yard and he was supposed to be in this week and call the DMV to see if he could legally give me the COD, but he was a no show. I really don't understand why they act like I am making them go way out of their way to give me the COD. Everytime I call them (even when I was just asking for a signature for the bill of sale) they have a fit. I don't care though, I will keep calling until I get the title if I need to. I also made the mistake of telling one of the people who works there which I think is one of the owners sons that I was going to sue them if I had to take it to court for the fees, so that kinda hurt me even though they have not mentioned it. I know if I do have to go through court, it's going to cost at least $250 just to file the paperwork and if I really have to get an attorney, it's going to be up to $3500. I am pretty sure once I can show ownership, by way of COD or Declaritory Judgement, I can get the title back (*knock on wood*). Even in the worst case scenario that I do end up having to paying $3500 for an attorney, I would do it because I really am getting attached to her.
On a side note I finally got the upper part of the drivers side seat belt bolted in yesterday. The nut that's supposed to be attached to the frame must have broke free when the salvage yard went to remove it for someone.
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small update:
talked to the main guy at the salvage yard and he is not going to give me the COD. Took me forever to get ahold of him and finally today I got to see him and he acted like it was going to be REALLY hard to find the COD and made a call to DMV (or so he said he called DMV anyways) and basically said he will not give it to me.
A week prior I called the DMV in tallahassee to try and find out a more definite answer about actually being able to have the COD in my name and the person I talked to said its like a title in that the person who owns it has the COD in their name and that they were obligated by law (she wasnt totally sure though on that part) to give me the COD. I believe she knew what she was talking about because she knew how a towing company could get a title back by sending in an affidavit saying they made a mistake. I am also going to see what I can have done with that lady at the local tag and title office because she is giving false info out. It wouldnt be so bad, but she is the supervisor there. Dont really want to get her fired, just get her in alittle trouble.
My next 2 things to try are seeking legal advice to see if I can take this to small claims to see if I can get that COD signed over or, if that doesnt work, I will see if I can sue for the amount it will cost me to get a declaratory judgment.
Someone told me that you dont need plates to race and I finally went out to the dragstrip here with my yellow Camaro (only got 10 flat in the 1/8 mile run a few times and gave up. Engine needs an overhaul bad). I was thinking that maybe once I get it put together, if I still dont have a title, I will run it to make sure its not going to fall apart on me for one reason or another. The engine that I am planning to build now shows promising power figures :). Thats if I can end up building the engine sooner than planned.
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MetalDrgn wrote:

    You are going about this the TOTAL WRONG WAY. STOP Where you are, do not do one more thing.
         First of all: The local Tax Collectors Office in Florida is not the place you get advice about how to re-title a C.O.D. Car. You Either get that Information IN PRINT from The State Highway Patroll, or DMV/BMV Headquarters. Get all the Correct Legal Paperwork First. Then READ it WORD for WORD. If You have a Question Then Counsult an Athority on the Documents.
    Second: Stop working on, toying with, or even touching the car. Legally it is not yours. You are not the registered Legal Owner. Even with a Bill of Sale, at this point you may own the parts, but not the whole car.
    Third: You need a Local Expert Source of Advice. Namely someone who rebuilds cars with C.O.D. Titles. Try Contacting local body shops. It might Cost you for their Advice, Yet Chances are They know the system.
    On The Race Car, Non-Title Issue: I know in OHIO (where I live), You are Required to Have the Car/Truck/Motorcycle/ATV/Off-road only/Farm Only vehical Titled in your name. Even if it is just a "Off High-way" or "Farm Only" Vehical.
    It only takes one bored Cop To pull you over, run the vehicals identifacation numbers, or check of lack there of, then take action. Ohio is going to stricker inforcement on Title issues. Laws passed and revised since 1997 are aimed at reducing the number of stolen vehicals resold, and recovering the property.
Charles (Who lives in Ohio, Not Florida)
    
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