I started out as a Mopar fanatic. Then front wheel drive became the
corporate cry. So I turned to GM. Never much cared for Fords even though I
did dig the 68 Cougar 302 Boss I once owned. GM peed down my neck and tried
to convince me it was only rain when they killed the F-Body and gave the
market to Ford. Now they bring up crap, yes I said crap, like the SSR and
the "GTO". The Impala SS is now a front wheel driver and GM styling at this
time would have Harley Earle spinning so fast in his grave he could generate
8 million megawatts per second. Where am I going with this rant you may
ask. Mopar is again coming out with real cars. REAL cars. Rear wheel
drive, Hemi powered, drool over them cars like the 300, the Crossfire, and
the Magnum SRT. These aren't "put your name on a list and we'll get back to
you cars". You can go down to the local Chrysler dealer and pick one up.
Yea, I know, It's Daimler-Chrysler now. So what? Cool is cool. Where am I
going with this you may ask. I have X amount of discretionary income. I
have a choice to make. 71 Dodge Challenger or a new Magnum SRT. My Birds
will always have good homes but to be honest as they get older, they get
pricier to keep up. I guess the point of this long nonsensical rant is to
get opinions. What would YOU do?
Buy old GM. They never go out of style, run great, are easy to fix and were
My friend has a 1991 Dodge Shadow with 175k on it. It's probably the most
reliable Chrysler product I know of. LOL. It's virtually rebuilt, but has a ton
of original items on it. This thing just keeps on going.
My uncle just bought a Chrysler 300M. We'll see how good it is, but my other
uncle had a 1997 LHS and it was a real POS. I told him from day #1 it was, but
as the saying goes, you can't usually convince people that they ain't eating
the best dog food out there.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director
'80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig.
'79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig
'84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
'91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
A freind was trying to convince me that I should go for a Neon SRT. Jeez,
if I wanted a rice rocket I'd but rice-built. I like old GM but already
have a couple of Birds. A guy that used to live down the street is getting
a divorce so the Challenger is up for sale at a good price. I've test
driven the Magnum and really liked it plus the real world funtionality of
the wagon would come in handy. I guess the real question comes down to do I
really need a new toy or a new daily driver. My Astro van that I've been
using as a daily driver/service truck is about ready for a new tranny and as
good of a truck as it's been it is a toss up wether it would be worth it.
Since I've owned it the clock has flipped over once. The 4.3 still runs
like new but beyond needing a trans in the near future it's also ready for a
ps pump and new rubber. My main gripe about the Magnum is the only V8
option is the Hemi. Don't want one. A buddy has a half-ton pickup with the
Hemi and he never gets over 12 mpg. My old Astro, even pulling a tandem
axle trailer with a car on it gets 18-20 mpg. I guess, considering price,
I'll buy the Challenger and spend what I didn't spend on a new Magnum to fix
up the Astro.
I second that!
1976 Chevrolet Nova
128,500 miles on it,and just last weekend I drove it from Texas where I
bought it, back to where I live...... 2 hr trip, at 70 mph..... not a
only tools I had was a cellphone, checkbook, and my road service coverage
through State Farm.
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com ).
I've told about 50 people the 300C is my next car if I were buying a
sedan. Unfortunately, my next car is going to be a truck - I need
something that can tow a racecar and carry plywood and my truck is
rusting to nothing. But the 300 series whips GM's ass because FWD is gay.
If you are looking to buy a half-ton DON'T buy the Ram with a Hemi. A buddy
bought one and the mileage sucks big time. The Ford Lighning, with a
blower, gets better mileage and has a higher towing capacity. My
recommendation; buy an oler GMC and spend some bucks to fix it up. You'll
be better off in the long run.
When the going gets weird,
the weird STILL turn pro.
The GTO uses an LS1. It is rear wheel drive. It slightly out
performs the Hemi. What the hell do you mean, "whips GM's ass"?
I'll agree that other than the GTO, GM has squat. I hope they change
PS: I like the 300C and the Mgnum.
Because the GTO isn't available in Canada.
I live in Canada.
my bad. I forgot about the GTO because of that. I get to pick from fwd
crap. And the SSR is a fat overpriced pig.
I'd take a GTO over a 300C, but I can't, and the 300C is a "regular" car
at a regular price - the GTO is a special car at a premium price.
And none of it matters because I have to buy a truck to replace my
Jimmy... but my Trans Am fears no 300C.
The 300C is a "regular car?"
the 'hemi' 5.7L model starts at $33K, the same as a GTO, the base model is
comparable to a Impala/Monte/Grand Prix, and the Touring and Limited are
around the same as an SS Supercharged Impala/Monte/Grand Prix.
Not sure why everyone is so impressed with the Hemi motor, If you can't get
at LEAST 50-60ft/lbs of torque per litre (1ft/lb per in^3) your engine
The 300C IS a regular car. You can buy them off the lot, you can take a
test drive, you can negotiate the price of one. John Q Public buys one
because he likes it. A Viper is a special car. A Vette is a special
car. Mustangs aren't special - certain ones are, but the base 'Stang is
just another crappy Ford... From what I read, the GTO was supposed to be
somewhat special - 18,000 cars max... they've probably already made
18,000 300Cs... which is why the 300 series is nothing special - they're
just a sedan...
For me, it'll be nice in 5 years when I have kids and need a sedan.
Cheap used RWD cars available again. :)
Ray, what are you smoking? Before you indicated afordability as the
test. Now you claim it is availability. I know for a fact that
Vettes are available, on lots, can be test driven and can negotiate
price. Under the "new" rules, that makes it a regular car. If you go
back to the old rules of affordability, the steep price on Hemi
equipped models is valid point against them being "regular" cars too.
Come on, look who buys Corvettes. Attitudenally challenged cats with
midlife crises issues. There are so many better cars with more bang for the
buck that vettes are pretty much a standing joke anymore. Course I should
probably keep my mouth shut seeing as how I plan on plunking down money for
a toy I don't really need.
When the going gets weird,
the weird STILL turn pro.
I know a good number of car guys that have always wanted a Corvette,
Real Car Guys, that work on cars for a living.
Usually they are in their late 30's before they can afford to buy one,
even to restore. Of the ones I know that own them, the only way they will
give them up is to have the steering wheel buried with them due to their
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