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I started out as a Mopar fanatic. Then front wheel drive became the corporate cry. So I turned to GM. Never much cared for Fords even though I did dig the 68 Cougar 302 Boss I once owned. GM peed down my neck and tried
to convince me it was only rain when they killed the F-Body and gave the market to Ford. Now they bring up crap, yes I said crap, like the SSR and the "GTO". The Impala SS is now a front wheel driver and GM styling at this time would have Harley Earle spinning so fast in his grave he could generate 8 million megawatts per second. Where am I going with this rant you may ask. Mopar is again coming out with real cars. REAL cars. Rear wheel drive, Hemi powered, drool over them cars like the 300, the Crossfire, and the Magnum SRT. These aren't "put your name on a list and we'll get back to you cars". You can go down to the local Chrysler dealer and pick one up. Yea, I know, It's Daimler-Chrysler now. So what? Cool is cool. Where am I going with this you may ask. I have X amount of discretionary income. I have a choice to make. 71 Dodge Challenger or a new Magnum SRT. My Birds will always have good homes but to be honest as they get older, they get pricier to keep up. I guess the point of this long nonsensical rant is to get opinions. What would YOU do?
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Wait for the General:
He's always got a better battle plan!
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Buy old GM. They never go out of style, run great, are easy to fix and were American made.
My friend has a 1991 Dodge Shadow with 175k on it. It's probably the most reliable Chrysler product I know of. LOL. It's virtually rebuilt, but has a ton of original items on it. This thing just keeps on going.
My uncle just bought a Chrysler 300M. We'll see how good it is, but my other uncle had a 1997 LHS and it was a real POS. I told him from day #1 it was, but as the saying goes, you can't usually convince people that they ain't eating the best dog food out there. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going.... '91 S10 Blazer 4.3Z
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Bigjfig wrote:

A freind was trying to convince me that I should go for a Neon SRT. Jeez, if I wanted a rice rocket I'd but rice-built. I like old GM but already have a couple of Birds. A guy that used to live down the street is getting a divorce so the Challenger is up for sale at a good price. I've test driven the Magnum and really liked it plus the real world funtionality of the wagon would come in handy. I guess the real question comes down to do I really need a new toy or a new daily driver. My Astro van that I've been using as a daily driver/service truck is about ready for a new tranny and as good of a truck as it's been it is a toss up wether it would be worth it. Since I've owned it the clock has flipped over once. The 4.3 still runs like new but beyond needing a trans in the near future it's also ready for a ps pump and new rubber. My main gripe about the Magnum is the only V8 option is the Hemi. Don't want one. A buddy has a half-ton pickup with the Hemi and he never gets over 12 mpg. My old Astro, even pulling a tandem axle trailer with a car on it gets 18-20 mpg. I guess, considering price, I'll buy the Challenger and spend what I didn't spend on a new Magnum to fix up the Astro.
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Bigjfig wrote:

I second that!
1976 Chevrolet Nova 128,500 miles on it,and just last weekend I drove it from Texas where I bought it, back to where I live...... 2 hr trip, at 70 mph..... not a whimper.
only tools I had was a cellphone, checkbook, and my road service coverage through State Farm.
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LOL
I bet he didn't like his generic Kibbles and Bits?
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FBR wrote:

I've told about 50 people the 300C is my next car if I were buying a sedan. Unfortunately, my next car is going to be a truck - I need something that can tow a racecar and carry plywood and my truck is rusting to nothing. But the 300 series whips GM's ass because FWD is gay.
Ray
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Ray wrote:

If you are looking to buy a half-ton DON'T buy the Ram with a Hemi. A buddy bought one and the mileage sucks big time. The Ford Lighning, with a blower, gets better mileage and has a higher towing capacity. My recommendation; buy an oler GMC and spend some bucks to fix it up. You'll be better off in the long run.
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FBR wrote:

I'll probably be buying a 92-99 ext cab 4x4 Chev/GMC. Depending on $$... either the "classic" 5.7 or the new 5.3. It'll be my winter truck/second car for the summer.
Ray
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The GTO uses an LS1. It is rear wheel drive. It slightly out performs the Hemi. What the hell do you mean, "whips GM's ass"?
I'll agree that other than the GTO, GM has squat. I hope they change that.
PS: I like the 300C and the Mgnum.
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SgtSilicon wrote:

Because the GTO isn't available in Canada. I live in Canada. :) my bad. I forgot about the GTO because of that. I get to pick from fwd crap. And the SSR is a fat overpriced pig.
I'd take a GTO over a 300C, but I can't, and the 300C is a "regular" car at a regular price - the GTO is a special car at a premium price.
And none of it matters because I have to buy a truck to replace my Jimmy... but my Trans Am fears no 300C.
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The 300C is a "regular car?"
the 'hemi' 5.7L model starts at $33K, the same as a GTO, the base model is comparable to a Impala/Monte/Grand Prix, and the Touring and Limited are around the same as an SS Supercharged Impala/Monte/Grand Prix.
Not sure why everyone is so impressed with the Hemi motor, If you can't get at LEAST 50-60ft/lbs of torque per litre (1ft/lb per in^3) your engine designers suck.
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Only Honda Owners brag about HP per Litre.
Real mean only car about Power to weight Ratio. Aint much to brag about till your at 10 to 1. That's 10 pounds per horse power.
Charles
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Well, that puts my 35 year old technoligy 455 at 66ft/lbs per liter.
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Paradox wrote:

The 300C IS a regular car. You can buy them off the lot, you can take a test drive, you can negotiate the price of one. John Q Public buys one because he likes it. A Viper is a special car. A Vette is a special car. Mustangs aren't special - certain ones are, but the base 'Stang is just another crappy Ford... From what I read, the GTO was supposed to be somewhat special - 18,000 cars max... they've probably already made 18,000 300Cs... which is why the 300 series is nothing special - they're just a sedan...
For me, it'll be nice in 5 years when I have kids and need a sedan. Cheap used RWD cars available again. :)
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I agree. But then again I remember when late 60's Impala's were cheap and plentiful.
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:22:36 -0500, ray

Ray, what are you smoking? Before you indicated afordability as the test. Now you claim it is availability. I know for a fact that Vettes are available, on lots, can be test driven and can negotiate price. Under the "new" rules, that makes it a regular car. If you go back to the old rules of affordability, the steep price on Hemi equipped models is valid point against them being "regular" cars too.
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SgtSilicon wrote:

Come on, look who buys Corvettes. Attitudenally challenged cats with midlife crises issues. There are so many better cars with more bang for the buck that vettes are pretty much a standing joke anymore. Course I should probably keep my mouth shut seeing as how I plan on plunking down money for a toy I don't really need.
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wrote:

I know a good number of car guys that have always wanted a Corvette, Real Car Guys, that work on cars for a living.
Usually they are in their late 30's before they can afford to buy one, even to restore. Of the ones I know that own them, the only way they will give them up is to have the steering wheel buried with them due to their death grip. Charles
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