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A friend has a car that sat for a while with a full tank of gas. We dropped the tank to find out why there was no fuel flow and found that all the rubber seals that came in contact with the old stale gas had dissolved.
Is this normal, or did someone pull a prank on him?
TIA
NOI
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Most likely it was racing gas:
Or had a good octane booster in it. racing gas and octane boosters are high in toluene contact, and play hell on rubber seals if immersed in it for long periods.
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Refinish King spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed

It was last filled up, two years ago at Shell, I'm told. /me shrugs
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Old gas can do some nasty things to rubber :) Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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The gas we buy today is shit. The rubber disolved from the high alcohol content. This has been a serious problem for me as I own six collector cars and if I don't drive them regularly....... I'm installing fuel pumps and overhauling carbs.
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Big Dav160 wrote:

Yep. Ethanol. It has also been known to dry out hoses/lines. (Just wanted to add that to your list of worries. Woo Fun!)
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GLK9MM spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

Wonderful.
Thanks everyone.
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Thund3rstruck_n0i wrote:

This might sound odd, and it just came to me, but some rubbers break down after prolonged exposure to cold and damp moisture. (Say 3 degrees Celsius - same temp as ice water/tea.)
Just another one of those useless fact stuffed in my brain.
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GLK9MM spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

Meh. No biggie there. :)
I have suggested renting an air compressor, and replacing at least the filter, and fuel pumps.
Dunno what to do with approximately 8 gallons of nasty old stale gas tho...
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Leave it in the tank, refill with fresh, and in a few days, you wont know it was there.. Seriously.

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CBHVAC spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

It's at least 2 years old and has dissolved rubber in it.
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Get a few gas cans, and a small electirc fuel pump. Frame mount style, for carburated vehical. Make up some leads, and get a charged up battery. As well as a inline fuel filter, and some fuel line. Pump the gas in to cans.
Then get a freash can. Go to Duncan Oil on Factory road outside of bevercreek (from dayton 35 to Beavercreek, turn left, turn on the road for E.J. Nutter business park, turn in to first driveway). Eet 5 gallions of Meth Race Fuel. It's the pump all the way over by the end.
Mix one gallion per 2 gallions of old gas. Keep some around for E-check time. Use a rag to strain the mix. Add it in with almost full tank of freash gas.
Otherwise in Ohio disposing of old fuel is very expensive. If you get caught dumping it, you will get a large fine, possible some time in county lock up.
If you have to replace the tank, and need to dispose of the old one: Put 8 1/4 inch holes in it, take out the sending unit. Go to American Car Crashers/ Valley Street Car Crushers, next to McHaffies. Ask for Sue, tell her Me & curt sent you down to get rid of a tank. She aught to take it for free. Charles
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Thund3rstruck snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.comREMOVE says...

Use it in the lawn mower :-)
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Give it to someone who uses a waste oil heater:
In the proper proportions, you can burn gasoline, lacquer thinner and most VOC's.
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Shenandoah
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True with new units;
This one is about 16 to 18 years old, has a stainless combustion chamber with a turbulator in it. Plus is fed the way the book said to do it when he bought it, with a 500 gallon tank.
The instructions also said: "No more than 1.5 gallons of lacquer thinner or gasoline per 100 gallons of waste oil or #2 heating oil.
The funny thing about this unit, in all those years, the only thing that ever went wrong with it, were the boards in the burner, If I buy a waste oil heater, it will be a Shenandoah!
Thank you for warning the others to not get crazy with gas for an alternative fuel too. I forgot that part. Refinish King
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While it may not be good, or recommended, I have friends that do. They will mix 5 gallions of gas with 20 gallions of oil, gear lube, transmission fluid, hydrolic oil (simmular to transmission fluid), even old diesel ( you can interchange diesel & #2 home heating oil).
I have actually thought about buying a waste oil burner, but have heard used units are to be avioded. Any thoughts? Charles
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From someone in the trade, that makes good money when people do this stuff...dont. They might swear by it....but its wrong, and nothing they say can make it right. Period. The units ARE NOT designed for this. Will they do it? Yes...will it last? No. Will it one day possibly blow up? Assuridly.

Never, ever, EVER buy a used unit. If the units good, why is it going out? You are buying someones problems. Do you know what to look for? Soot and cracked heat exchangers? Can you tell without taking it apart? No..you cant. I have a guy that comes by and picks up all our scrap...today alone the guys got him a full load of old units..AC units, electric furnaces, etc... I spent most of the day making sure all was evacuated, and then, after the decals and such were placed on the units, made sure they will never run again. Same for the furnaces. We destroy them before they go to scrap. There is NO WAY to insure that you wont be the person that finds out the used unit was scrapped due to a potentially fatal problem. It is against the law to install a used unit in someones home or business. There is a reason for that. Besides...for a few extra bux, if you know where to look, you can get a new one for about what you would pay for a used hunk of shit.

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