OT: Citroen commercial Transformers?

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It's just too much. A transformer hip hop car.
http://www.citroen.co.uk/c4/homepage.asp?pagetype ń
...Ron -- 68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula 00' Mustang GT Vert
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HAHAHAHHA... Now that was an interesting commercial.. how long do you think that commercial will last? Seeing as though there will be people that will WANT the transforming version of that car.. lol. Good find though.. <grin>
-Geno 1985 Blue Camaro 2.8L w/T-tops (149k and going... getting worried) 1988 Blue Firebird Formula 5.0L w/T-tops 1985 Brown Firebird 5.7L w/5-Speed (No T-tops though) Still looking for an '82-'84 T/A w/T-tops or parts from one
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It's French!
They couldn't build a house out of Lego's!
LOL
Refinish King
Remember the Renault?
Remember what it did to AMC?

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King:
AMC was far from stellar in any way before they shacked up with Renault. If anything, AMC gave Renault a shed of consistency in this country.
Consistent disaster, that is. LOL
It's well known that AMC should have been called an "assembler" of cars, rather than a manufacturer. Sure as hell didn't design much. However, Teague and the boys at AMC did what they could.
I work with a guy that when he started, he said to me, "Yea, I have an old car". Curiously, I asked what. He said, "An '81 AMC Spirit, remember those???"
Now for each his own, I said, rolling my eyes. LOL. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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Sorry Joe I ll still take my first car over almost anything that came along before or after it.
1970 AMC Rebel Machine was given to me on my 16th birthday by my grandfather.
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That was a cool car!
There was a guy in Mt. Vernon, New York. I forgot the name of the shop, but he tunneled the floor board at the transmission hump and put a 427 Chevy in it, and called it the American Rat.
It ran in the 10.0's with a 427/435 and was the talk of the town.
Refinish King
PS There is a guy with one in a garage in Mt Carmel, Pa. that hasn't driven it since 1979. He won't even let anyone touch it. It shines like new!

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There were notable exceptions, but on the whole, AMC was crap. Half of the car is from someone else. LOL.
AMC should have been called a "car assembler" rather than a manufacturer since they bought everything from someone else and slapped it together. LOL.
The guy that does my state inspections on my car restored a '68 AMX because it was "different". Something to be said for it. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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My brother had a:
68 Javelin with a 290, worked moderately and a Dana 44. It did 12.50.
In 1970, Wally Booth set a Pro Stock record, but the NHRA decided to repeal the cylinder head modification rules for two years, and Chevy dominated again. But they were a decent car.
I used to get laid nightly in my 68 Ambassador, so they can't be all that bad?
LOFL
Refinish King

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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:30:23 GMT, "Refinish_King1"

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-- lab~rat >:-) The less you care, the more it doesn't matter.
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Yup, I'll believe that. One of the guys I work with was given one of these from another guy we work with.
IT's SO rotted that he fell through the floor when he sat in it and the hood came apart in pieces when opened. It easily hasn't seen the road since 1984!
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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You mean SS/A or SS/B (Super Stock). The Pro Stock class wasn't started until 1973 or 1974. I grew up with a father who ran SS/A in the late 60's and early 70's. Charles

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It must have been an SS class:
Because he was kicking Grump's ass and Dyno Don's ass all over the place for two years.
Refinish King
PS Whatever happened to Dyno Don Nicholson? He was a great guy in the pits!

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That I don't know. A bit before my time, I wasn't hatched until 1974. Like a good hatchling, I wasn't ready till after race season ended here.
I used to have a picture of my Father head to head at the Tree with Bill Grumpy Jenkins. Taken at National Trails Raceway outside of Columbus Ohio. Grumpy didn't get a win light in that pairing. Charles a 69 Camaro set up like a old SS/A car for the street is what I need.
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Now that I remember:
When I had my shop in The Bronx, N.Y. and I was the mechanic for Bob Fraioli. Some black guys from Brooklyn, N.Y. Bought Grump's 70 Camaro. That was turned into a 74 ands sold in 75, that might have been a Pro or SS?
I painted it for them, and they used to street race and kick Scott Schaffiroff's ass and take his money.
LOL
Refinish King

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I work with a Greek guy from Brooklyn (originally) who grew up around (from the neighborhood) Nunzi Romano of Pontiac fame. He's still driving the 1974 Grand Prix (a bit modded now) that he bought new!
He is said to be a truly old school Pontiac guy. Really knows the ins and outs of the works. He's always had a trick or two up his sleeve from what I know about him.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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of all three threads converged into one book. In the strictest sense, the convergent movements did not actually begin after Frank Church's investigation ended. But it was at that point that what had been a right-wing, eccentric, easily dismissed undercurrent, picked up a second wind-so much so that today it is not an eccentric undercurrent at all. It is accepted by a large amount of people. And, most surprisingly, some of its purveyors are even accepted within the confines of the research community.
The three threads are these: 1. That the Kennedys ordered Castro's assassination, despite the verdict of the Church Committee on the CIA's assassination plots. As I noted last issue, the committee report could find no evidence indicating that JFK and RFK authorized the plots on Fidel Castro, Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic, or Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam. 2. That the Kennedys were really "bad boys," in some ways as bad as Chicago mobsters or the "gentleman killers" of the CIA.
Although neither JFK nor RFK was lionized by the main centers of the media while they were alive, because of their early murders, many books and articles were written afterward that presented them in a sympathetic light, usually as liberal icons. This
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called Bobby a near-Puritan and then added: The stories about Bobby Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe were just stories. The original story was invented by a so-called journalist, a right-wing zealot who had a history of spinning wild yarns. It spread like wildfire, of course, and J. Edgar Hoover was right there, gleefully fanning the flames. (The Bureau p. 56)
The Capell/Winchell/Hoover triangle sowed the seeds of this slander. But the exposure of this triangle does more. In the Vanity Fair article in which Judith Exner dumped out the latest installment of her continuing saga, Liz Smith revealed that she apprenticed at the feet of Walter Winchell in New York (January 1997 p. 32). This may explain why she took up her mentor's cudgel.
Capell's work is, as Spoto notes in his Afterword, a frightful piece of reactionary paranoia. But there are two details in his pat anti-Kennedy tract that merit mention. First, Capell is probably the first to propagate the idea that RFK was indirectly responsible for his brother's murder. He does this by saying (p. 52), that comm
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penmanship. As subsequent facts have shown, this is not actually true. Linda Hart, one of the handwriting analysts hired by ABC (who was slighted on the program) later said that there were indications of "pen drops" in John Kennedy's signature, i.e. someone stopped writing and then started up again, a sure indication of tracing. Also, when I talked to Greg Schreiner, president of a Monroe fan club in Los Angeles, he told me that the moment he saw Monroe's signature, he knew it was not hers. Interestingly, he had met with Hersh this summer. Hersh had told him about the documents and Greg asked to see them. Hersh refused.
Another interesting aspect of the exposure of Hersh's "bombshell" was aired in the New York Times on September 27th. In this story, Bill Carter disclosed that there were doubts expressed about the documents by NBC to Hersh many months ago. Warren Littlefield, an NBC executive, said that Hersh had tried to peddle a documentary to them based on the documents. After NBC sent their experts to look at them in the summer of 1996, he told Hersh that in their opinion the documents were questionable. He said that NBC's lawyers were more specific with Hersh's lawyers. This was backed up by David Samuels' article in The New Yorker of 11/3/97. So Hersh's denials on this point, mentioned by Carter, ring hollow.
What makes the hollowness more palpable is one of the typing inconsistencies in the documents. On the Jennings segment, former FBI expert Jerry Richards showed one of the most blatant errors in the concoction. The typist had
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his prosecution of Alger Hiss. These all happened before 1951, two decades before Watergate. Nothing in JFK's political career compares with them.
The book's ill-explained origin is not its only problem. In its final form, it seems to be a rush job. I have rarely seen a biography by a veteran writer (which Clay Blair was) so poorly edited, written, and organized. The book is nearly 700 pages long. It could have been cut by a third without losing anything of quality or substance. The book is heavily reliant on interviews which are presented in the main text. Some of them at such length-two and three pages-that they give the volume the air of an oral history. To make it worse, after someone has stopped talking, the authors tell us the superfluous fact that his wife walked into the room, making for more excess verbiage (p.60). And on top of this, the Blairs have no gift for syntax or language, let alone glimmering prose. As a result, even for an interested reader, the book is quite tedious.
The Blairs spend much of their time delving into
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" should have been redacted and they never were. On the basis of this and other inconsistencies, he decided it was a "good" forgery from someone who knew what they were doing. He told PBS this four years ago when they showed it to him. The fact that this document purportedly revealing sensitive information was exposed in 1993 when he saw it, before the JFK Act when into effect, justifies even more suspicion about its origin and intent.
Spoto's book adds more to the suspicion about the document, and perhaps the information in Capell's pamphlet. Spoto notes that on August 3, 1962, the day the above memo was distributed, Kilgallen printed an item in her column saying that Marilyn was "vastly alluring to a handsome gentleman who is a bigger name than Joe DiMaggio" (p. 600). Spoto notes the source for Kilgallen's story as Howard Rothberg, the man named in the memo. This is interesting for more than one reason. First, Spoto writes that Rothberg was "a New York interior designer with no connection at all to Marilyn or her circle." (Ibid.) This means that he was likely getting his "information" through a third, unnamed source. Second, Rothberg's name, and this is part of the sensitive information referred to above, is exposed in the document. This is extraordinary. Anyone who has jousted with the FBI or CIA knows how difficult it is to get "sources and methods" revealed. In fact this is one of the big battles the ARRB had to fight with the FBI. Yet in this document, both the method and the source are open. Third, to my knowledge, Kilgallen never printed anything specific from the document. Why? Assuming for a moment that the document is real, probably because she could not confirm anything in it. But interestingly, right after Kilgallen printed her vague allusion, Winchell began
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